Human Science

Am I OK? Keeping with the pack or should I stop and do science pump?

HU/TAC Attacker added 0h accuracy: 100
alchemy: 30.6% (284k)
| tools: 22.9% (303k)
| housing: 14.5% (498k)
| production: 82.3% (168k)
bookkeeping: 10.6% (33k)
| artisan: 6.9% (29k)
| strategy: 15.9% (300k)
| siege: 13.4% (290k)
tactics: 20.7% (395k)
| valor: 10.3% (45k)
| heroism: 10.2% (87k)
| crime: 77.1% (395k)
channeling: 64.5% (183k)
| shielding: 3.8% (19k)
| cunning: 4.4% (11k)
| invocation: 6.7% (14k)
TOTAL books: 3,055k (0 unallocated) and 26 scientists

| added 0h accuracy: 100
alchemy: 37.9% (448k)|
tools: 28.4% (481k)
| housing: 15.2% (551k)
| production: 101.3% (261k)
bookkeeping: 13.1% (52k)
| artisan: 12.3% (101k)
| strategy: 21.4% (561k)
| siege: 14.5% (339k)
tactics: 23.1% (498k)
| valor: 10.9% (51k)
| heroism: 15.8% (223k)
| crime: 86.9% (507k)
channeling: 90% (371k)
| shielding: 4% (21k)
| cunning: 4.5% (11k)
| invocation: 6.7% (15k)
TOTAL books: 4,491k (0 unallocated) and 29 scientists

Your Sciences are okay. There is always a fine line to be found between amassing sciences and being able to defend them ... or just feeding others by being Learn attacked... you are doing well. Kudos.

added 0h accuracy: 100
alchemy: 31.2% (297k)| tools: 29.2% (510k)| housing: 14.8% (523k)| production: 90.7% (206k)
bookkeeping: 24.7% (204k)| artisan: 17% (202k)| strategy: 20.5% (511k)| siege: 12.2% (349k)
tactics: 23.4% (510k)| valor: 20.7% (201k)| heroism: 20.6% (243k)| crime: 68.4% (306k)
channeling: 62.8% (173k)| shielding: 8.5% (109k)| cunning: 12.5% (106k)| invocation: 16.2% (99k)
TOTAL books: 4,548k (0 unallocated) and 29 scientists

@Shai I'm guessing you are NOT HU
What race are you playing this age?

Human of course

Mmmmm near end of age.... I think humans should have 8000k-10,000k sci by now?
The basic non-humans that didnt pump are 4000k-5000k ish now.

This is likely getting nerfed again next age, can't see why I have been able to reach +47% income for just below 800k books as an elf with scientific insight, got near 6.5 million books in total from 4 ww's and occasionally running labs, I'm not a huge fan of learn attacks in the current science system, so only occasionally used them as retaliations for learns on me.

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Originally Posted by Madchess

This is likely getting nerfed again next age, can't see why I have been able to reach +47% income for just below 800k books as an elf with scientific insight, got near 6.5 million books in total from 4 ww's and occasionally running labs, I'm not a huge fan of learn attacks in the current science system, so only occasionally used them as retaliations for learns on me.

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You pumping income to 800k is a decision... and a opportunity cost where you can put it into else where..... I think the current system is alright for ZERO WW kingdoms.

But the problem is the WW bonus which might need to be toned down.... Maybe bring back the WW bonus decision of: Land, Honor and add in Science. Which a WW of Sci would be how much you get as of this age from a WW.

I still expected that the curve would make it impossible to get that high, I do not even think any other categories are particularily bad for me, I considder my tools science with half the books of alchemy to be maxed just fine at +24.5% to BE, everything on top is just because you have the books and might as well use them.

One of my undead kingdom fellors forgot to allocate over a million books earlier, probably because his science was already decent at that point.

I was happy with science this age. I think a nerf to WW science bonus would be good too.

Got a total of 9.1mil books right now as an orc warrior. These are the boosts I'm getting

Alchemy 572,415 +37.1% Income
Tools 715,003 +29.8% Building Effectiveness
Housing 646,347 +14.2% Population Limits
Production 428,712 +111.4% Food & Rune Production
Bookkeeping 209,721 -21.7% Wage Reduction
Artisan 210,667 -15.1% Construction Time & -15.1% Construction Cost

Strategy 631,169 +19.7% Defensive Military Efficiency
Siege 655,593 +14.3% Battle Gains
Tactics 2,754,256 +50.0% Offensive Military Efficiency
Valor 256,401 -20.2% Military Train Time & +20.2% Dragon Slaying Strength
Heroism 927,130 +27.0% Draft Speed & -27.0% Draft Costs

Crime 432,507 +70.1% Thievery Effectiveness
Channeling 55,901 +32.2% Magic Effectiveness
Shielding 638,085 -17.0% Damage from Enemy Thievery and Magic Instant Operations
Cunning 6,466 +3.0% Thievery and Magic Instant Operation Damage
Invocation 57,871 -11.0% Ritual Rune Cost

Faery Mystic. 14.3M books. Started a month late.

Economy - 21 scientists - 0 books available
Alchemy 1,002,234 +48.4% Income
Tools 1,344,762 +40.3% Building Effectiveness
Housing 2,400,873 +26.6% Population Limits
Production 1,472,045 +200.3% Food & Rune Production
Bookkeeping 45,684 -10.7% Wage Reduction
Artisan 19,456 -5.0% Construction Time & -5.0% Construction Cost

Military - 8 scientists - 0 books available
Strategy 1,600,900 +30.7% Defensive Military Efficiency
Siege 845,173 +16.2% Battle Gains
Tactics 1,600,900 +35.0% Offensive Military Efficiency
Valor 28,904 -7.3% Military Train Time & +7.3% Dragon Slaying Strength
Heroism 47,843 +6.7% Draft Speed & -6.7% Draft Costs

Arcane Arts - 8 scientists - 0 books available
Crime 1,864,494 +140.4% Thievery Effectiveness
Channeling 1,864,494 +269.9% Magic Effectiveness
Shielding 75,477 -6.2% Damage from Enemy Thievery and Magic Instant Operations
Cunning 24,586 +5.5% Thievery and Magic Instant Operation Damage
Invocation 16,298 -6.1% Ritual Rune Cost.

Was also happy with the new curves. Much better drop-off compared to last age. Reasonable to pump alot, but still diminishing and alot of NW.

10.2M books. Only pumped Tactics in the end. Human.

Economy - 5 scientists - 0 books available
Alchemy 400,287 +36.0% Income
Tools 1,393,235 +47.1% Building Effectiveness
Housing 1,254,162 +22.4% Population Limits
Production 259,093 +101.0% Food & Rune Production
Bookkeeping 265,568 -27.9% Wage Reduction
Artisan 15,839 -5.2% Construction Time & -5.2% Construction Cost

Military - 32 scientists - 0 books available
Strategy 1,627,017 +35.5% Defensive Military Efficiency
Siege 50,345 +4.9% Battle Gains
Tactics 3,364,019 +57.5% Offensive Military Efficiency
Valor 24,431 -7.8% Military Train Time & +7.8% Dragon Slaying Strength
Heroism 41,095 +7.2% Draft Speed & -7.2% Draft Costs

Arcane Arts - 0 scientists - 0 books available
Crime 665,251 +98.8% Thievery Effectiveness
Channeling 426,693 +96.2% Magic Effectiveness
Shielding 381,344 -15.3% Damage from Enemy Thievery and Magic Instant Operations
Cunning 10,552 +4.3% Thievery and Magic Instant Operation Damage
Invocation 5,296 -4.2% Ritual Rune Cost

So that's pretty good