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It comes a bit late amidst some lingering developments we've been working on, however the Twitter feed and Holiday announcement we've been hinting at has been the acquisition of another game, Generals.io
You can read the announcement thread here
Use this thread to discuss thoughts, ideas, suggestions, feedback and reviews!
What is this you are talking about?
There is only one question to be answered, Omac MK2.
Have you bought this Generals game because you hope to transfer players here, or because you are hoping to transfer players there? Just like the previous game purchasers hoped to do?
Excuse the cynicism but we've seen this kind of 'exciting' announcement before.
Well, the generals.io site looks even less inviting then utopia :P
Cool I guess. Not really anything that interests me so hopefully it doesn't harm this game.
Hey look! Multiplayer Minesweeper...
http://i66.tinypic.com/21jtwky.jpg
The Generals.io site is quite simple at the moment, there are major developments already underway to give it a facelift. The gameplay however is stellar and the Generals community is great.
@Sweetiepie - The goal is actually both. I have big plans to incorporate Generals gameplay into Utopia (100% optional of course) to help engage existing Utopia players, and provide alternate entertainment for new users while they're on the site. Additionally, the Generals community is a vast market of like-minded people who could easily transfer and become long time Utopia players. While I understand the Omac reference, we are not the same and the same fate will not become of us.
Before anyone criticizes Generals I suggest you give it a try. The first time I played it I was MIA for about 6 hours (similar results from all those I suggested try it as well). There is a good group of us on the MUGA Discord server that have been playing for some time now as well. It's quite addicting in a much more simple fashion than Utopia.
If you recall the early days of Utopia with Mehul there were mini-games that you could play to occupy your time on the site, that's what our objectives are with Generals.
Missed you DylanC.
I think this post is off-topic as it's not related to Uto. Shouldn't you be posting in General?
Blatant advertising of unrelated sites, programs, or services is also against the rules. Even if moved to General.
Bringing things back on topic, I just gave the game a try and lost about an hour to it. It's surprisingly deep and it didn't take long at al for me to grasp the basic strategies. I think I've found my new time-killer :)
Awesome, I love this game! Congrats MUGA!
I am legitimately concerned as to the health and wellbeing of MUGA owners, Utopia players, and anybody else who thinks there is something fun about this.
Haha it's too deep for Steel!
It's a great game with a worldwide following. It will help draw people to Utopia!
How large is the player base?Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthira
I checked out the Reddit, which has 650 members. The conversations make it sound like it's in a similar state to utopia, with its glory days in the past.
It has a rather large following.
I think it's fun. It's a simple almost stratego like strategy game.
And yet... here you are empty handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthira
And the reddit isn't even all that active, either... better than the long-dead Utopia one with 100 members but really not encouraging.
The utopia subreddit has no reason for existing as long as this archaic forum exists, hence the ghost town.
Their discord has 2000 members.
What everyone hopes that happens: turn utopia from a ****ty looking game to a smooth modern game to attract more players. What happens: acquire another ****ty looking game.
Everyone sees utopia's player numbers are in decline, the 10k players planned for in the twitch thingy are far from there, so if at first you don't succeed, try, try again unfortunately with a different game :'(
I dunno, it doesn't feel right, but what do i know. Doesn't help that in the announcements they try to encourage utopia players to play generals and not the other way around..
How many Generals.io players does read this forum you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yadda9To5
lol smartypants, probably close to 0, that's why there is an announcement on their reddit, which i was referring to, where utopia is referred to as an old game and great plans are laid out to improve generals o.O (worse, it's implied there that generals is meant to get players from their current playersbase "the MUGA team has been working to find other creative ways at developing an engaging and entertaining atmosphere for its users, enter Generals.io") Comparing those two announcements it's clear the direction the players are supposed to move :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
That doesn't mean they aren't trying to get generals players to play utopia. I already know of at least two who are/have started since yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yadda9To5
David already said he wants to encourage players from both games to try the other game. In the Utopia announcement, David talked about integrating generals into Utopia - clearly that is based on the intention that Utopia continues to exist. There's no need to be so negative about everything - there's plenty of space for people to try to help Utopia grow if they want to.
Yes, we do also have plans to improve generals. The original developer is working for us on those items. This doesn't remove any of the resources or money that we are putting into improvements on this side.
We originally approached generals as an affinity partner, looking to cross-promote and potentially embed -- thinking that there was a great overlap between the two games, with generals being a tactics-focused short play game, and utopia being a more long-term strategic game. Many of the players of each would enjoy the other, and generals could be embedded inside of utopia to give players something to do in downtime between ticks when they might be out of stealth/mana and have armies out.
The owner suggested this route instead, and we are happy with this outcome. We still have the same vision, because we feel like the two games have solid synergies with each other. If you aren't interested in generals.io, don't play it. Bored while the game is ticking? Maybe play a quick round of generals instead of spamming refresh the way I do. Or don't. Our hope is that some of their more vibrant userbase will help us to revitalize utopia when they find that they enjoy the more long-term strategic approach. Our goal is not to push people from utopia to generals; frankly, the nature of generals is that it's playerbase will be more temporary, but it has a significantly larger userbase. This isn't utopia kingdoms, we haven't built a pay to win game that we want to push you into instead of utopia. Our hope is for both communities -- that already exist and don't need to be built -- to be enriched by the interaction.
I'm just happy I've kept this avatar all these years. Still relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Omg buy this one next please! http://torturegames.net/play-11-the-torture-game-2.html
I think there is probably a lot of commonality between the two player bases and I for one could see myself paying to put other players faces on there between ticks.
How much to buy ******? we need to go full Bill Gates on this
Edit: lol didn't know that *other* game was off limits. All the more reason to absorb it
Wanted to check if game is dying and that my retire decision after couple of ftustrating ages was justified. Came across this thread ... not disapointed. Saw the changes for the age ... hell no! I ain't coming back!
nobody asked you to, and don't think anybody is missing you either.Quote:
Originally Posted by coss
imo that game looks terrible, i hope you guys didnt spend a lot of money buying it.
Steel never has a nice thing to say, and this is so tame, it might be approval. How about playing Generals and winning some? They have replays of your games, and team play is my favorite game option. You can even make custom maps, speed up or slow down time, or play bots. For you guys who play a text based game like Uto, you're sure judgie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Only if you're ignorant of the reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthira
Just going to +1 this ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Zauper said it quite well, there are no plans to push anyone anywhere. Generals has a large community and a very easily marketable game with very simple gameplay. It has a larger user base than Utopia and it has much much higher new users. Simply put, the cross-promotion potential in both directions is what we're looking for. We feel that Utopia players will be inclined to enjoy the gameplay of Generals and that Generals players will be inclined to enjoy Utopia. Each game is very different in it's activity and time requirements which makes them perfect for each other to blend well.
That said, Generals is not for everyone and neither is Utopia, our only motive for promoting Generals to Utopia players is to offer you another way to engage with your fellow Kingdom mates, or Generals players.
@ Yadda - You are reading that completely wrong. MUGA (the company that owns Utopia) is looking for a way (Generals) to increase engagement for it's users (Utopia users). Translated: MUGA wants Utopia users to engage with other Utopia users via Generals during Utopia downtime (waiting for tick, waiting for wave, waiting for army return, you've run out of stealth/mana). && Second Primary objective to get Generals players to join Utopia.
Thank you dev guys. Haven't looked yet, but it sounds cool. (barely have the energy to make instant coffee)
The idea seems interesting.