Originally Posted by
beans
well yes, we should never have waved a kd that thought they had an EOA CF with us even if we thought they didnt. We should have just fixed the diplo and gone after them next age when everything would be fair game. I assumed the argument was "dont wave divinity when they think you are eoa cf" not "dont ever wave divinity."
I am strongly opposed to any kind of deal that involves one party thinking something is true when the other party does not. That kind of **** is why I left utopia the first time, it pisses me off when I see it any where and it pisses me off the most when I see it in my own kd. I havn't been here long, but this is the first time I have seen bart pull a diplo move that was like that and I told him I didnt like it.
Ya'll apparently want sincere apologies. Well I, on behalf of my kd have been in here a while now saying that we realize what we did was wrong and are sorry for it. This had nothing to do with diplo because I did not ask for anything in return, except for possibly getting flamed less in the forums. Just because we are not willing to give in to every demand made of us doesn't mean we are not sorry, it just means we are in a disagreement about what a reasonable punishment is for what we did.
I don't expect any thing i say here to result in benefits for my kd. This is not diplo. But if people have any interest at all in what sparta was thinking, is thinking, and how we came to this unfortunate place I thought I should throw that in since we were getting talked about here any way.
As far as I know (and im not following closely) diplomatic talks have shut down at this point, which is fine. Getting razed in silence is at least better then getting razed while arguing with people. If parties involved want to try restarting talks feel free to message me in game (burritopia). Otherwise lets just let the topic die and those who feel the need can take what they can from us in blood.