Any Kingdom has balls to fight FREE in equal terms?

Heya,

We have fought two wars and we've lost both of them. We've fought against the odds in both of the wars.

The first war vs Spartans was in straight OOP against 5000 elites humans, with our entire kingdom as specialist trained.

The second war vs Blood Brothers with a 1/2 EOWCF kingdom, with more science, and average 12 EPA >>> while we had mostly specialist army (again) and no wpa/science due to 14k acres >>> 26k acres growth.

Still, we got 14 barons out of it and we did gained extra acres in both wars.

FREE is ready for war with a 32k acreage and about 6M NW (we are still converting incoming 1M-1.5M nw).

We are looking for a similar 6m NW kingdom, we can wait for them to grow if needed (in case less acreage/nw).

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Any kingdom on server with similar acreage/nw has balls to agree on a equal war? ~32k acres vs 32k acres, full numbers for both kingdoms.

Or does everybody expect a major advantage, such as superior acres, superior science, superior elites?

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If you are up to it, join #free in mirc and we can settle it. Or message ingame.

So much for superior activty, 25 provinces army in/out 24/7 and master strategist.

Will be hard for FREE to reach that top honor and warwin spot for sure :)


OOP Wars it cant be more even than that though.

For now we are 53,240 honor in 24 provinces. That would make us 55k honor with the 25th and that's with two war losses.

Age has not ended, the entire server in our NW range refused to war FREE in equal terms. We got both wars severely underpumped. That's the point of this topic.

A war win at this point can turn any top 15 honor kingdom into 1st.

The war win top spot is in our advantage, the mechanic for WW award will give us more points for 0/2 vs topfeed with a war win. The same for a 1/3 and so on.

If you can only war at "equal terms" you arent especially good and wont get either of those spots.

well, we wared under big disavantage twice, didn't we? why not try an equal war in acreage/nw/numbers? Can you say that about your kingdom, is your kingdom ready to war as FREE did?

When I was in The Faery Circle everybody wanted an advantage and in my mind I was willing to grant it. Well, I played attacker so I wasn't as concerned as our pure t/ms.

Essentially, you are running a core similar to Eye on the Prize. EotP ran an elf WH core themselves. What your opponent sees is a core capable of NMing about any non-t/m. Some discount this vs turtles but I myself have used NM to reduce tpa and bring a triad of ops/tm/sabotage to attacking.

Don't give up on even wars, just know that every kingdom with a conventional core will be hesitant to engage.

In TFC we were stranded oow for long periods of time with random attacks being the daily special. No one wanted to give us relations unless they knew we had our hands full elsewhere. The secret to kicking ass is to grow until you're an undeniable threat and the concerned feel the need to stop you.

Good luck guys

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Originally Posted by patapuf

well, we wared under big disavantage twice, didn't we? why not try an equal war in acreage/nw/numbers? Can you say that about your kingdom, is your kingdom ready to war as FREE did?

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You didnt, hence the crying. But that shouldnt matter for such a great warring kd as FREE, even at disadvantages should be the winning kingdom with the superior activty, the master strategist vlahul and the dedicated core.

Wars are found in game, not in forums.

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Originally Posted by neanderthal

Wars are found in game, not in forums.

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lol.

Lol, equal terms usually means while we now got the wizards needed for our strategy to work, we would like to fight an easy setup we can manage to beat..

Maybe grow and war the likes of pyro, I heard they been looking for a war for ages.. They so desperate they full wave ghettos half their size, guess they in same boat as you.

What happened to all that "taking utopia by force" and "waving kingdoms until they disband" rhetoric that was being tossed around a few weeks ago? :(

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

Lol, equal terms usually means while we now got the wizards needed for our strategy to work, we would like to fight an easy setup we can manage to beat..

Maybe grow and war the likes of pyro, I heard they been looking for a war for ages.. They so desperate they full wave ghettos half their size, guess they in same boat as you.

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I was almost surprised, would this be the first post from Aranfein without any whine or butthurtness, but you didnt disapoint!

Palem, we waved 9k acres with 2 retals only. That's sort of a waste. Get landfat, break out our desired numbers, end with crap epa/wpa/sci.

Also, I've heard that Palem is up for a war with FREE, is that true Palem? does your kd match the NW range? or are you bigger in nw?

FREE would love to war Palem's kingdom, really. There are some old grudges going on, so I've heard.

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

Lol, equal terms usually means while we now got the wizards needed for our strategy to work, we would like to fight an easy setup we can manage to beat..

Maybe grow and war the likes of pyro, I heard they been looking for a war for ages.. They so desperate they full wave ghettos half their size, guess they in same boat as you.

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We got our wizards? Barely close of what we wished for, but it's the best we could. And if we got it, so what? That's our setup. Some other kds chose a different setup, everybody has its own vision. Is this a reason to refuse wars in similar acreage/nw size? Our nwpa will be higher anyway and that will put us (nw related) against slightly bigger opponents in acres.

We don't want to fight easy setup.We want to fight a similar nw/acres kingdoms - we don't care for their setup. At all!

If we grow like Pyro (and we will at some point), our wars will be limited into 3-4 kingdoms only. We need to have a few more wars within top 10-20 and we can grow after.

So FREE cant manage wars without similar nw/land. Too sad to hear that will all your big talks. And that oop war with sparta was in equal terms because duh oop, it was strategy and foolishness that made you in disadvantage.