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So options are....
Dark elf Mystic - MS and mystic benefits
Dark elf Heretic - +1 mana and NM
Elf Mystic - MS + Elf racial bonus + mystic benefits
Faery Mystic - MS + Defensive
I feel like the +1 mana will be neccessary but to miss out on the NM from the dark elf, thats a toughy.
Same for not having a Mystic, A kingdom without MS...
Really struggling to pick. Pennies for your thoughts....
Yes, pick Bocan Rogue and just deny the enemy side their magics too.
+2 stealth, +30% damage and AW already being overpowered VS no CS (unless faery tactician) and reduced WT effectiveness will just be brutal.
Considering this, if you do want to play a mage, have something with double guilds ... you'll want that.
So stay away from Heretic, however fun it might sound.
Are you planning to go more towards T/M or more towards A/M?
I'd go for Elf Mystic, though Faery / Mystic probably makes a decent A/M. I fear DE cant.
Regards,
NighT
Nights right, but I plan to completely obliterate bacons first wave. ;)
SecondedQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldhearted
So yeah, we have bocan rogues anyway... Cannon fodder so to speak.
Was merely pondering the advantages and disadvantages of both.
Kd is looking towards Dark elf Heretic. Mainly for NM and the +1 Mana.
My kingdom is to and it makes me a little queasy, but usually these things work out if the players try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stingaaaa
I'd almost go dark elf mystic to be a nail bomb till I was snuffed out.
Hey Stinga,
Dark Elf / Heretic is going to have a horrible time casting spells I fear. You have no real magic bonus, no wizard growth bonus, no thief-protection (high tpa/CS/higher BE WTs for what they may be worth), no rune/econ boost and no stellar defense if you're going for A/M.
Not sure Dark Elf Heretic can even run the WPA needed to comfortably land NM and make use of that +1 mana.
Lets say you need 16 mod wpa / (1.3 x 125% channeling =) 2.625 channeling sciences = raw wpa needed (no mf / racial wpa boost) = 6.09 raw wpa needed to effectively land NM against anything but a Human.
You have +1 mana, no rune refund, no extra BE or more efficient towers. You will never get that WPA to 6 raw, you will never be able to protect those wizards from AW and if by any miracle you do succeed, you'll never have the runes to keep casting that NM you speak off.
To put it into perspective:
((0.68 x 1000 acres)+680) x 2.2 nightmares x 2 per hour = 5984 runes needed per hour to 100% cast NM (lets say a few selfspells, drop the rune need to 5K/hour).
Tower effectiveness: 12 runes per tower x 2.2 sciences x 0.75 BE = 19.8 per tower.
5000/19.8 = 252 towers needed / 1000 acres x 100% = 25.2% towers needed to somewhat self sustain NM.
Regards,
NighT
Thanks a lot night. Helps me change the mind of some of our more thoughtful players hahaha
DE/MY have BOTH NM and MS... wtf is this... @Stingaaa
builds suggestions for DE/Mys?
That was me not wanting to run dark elf mystics as a whole. Regardless of their obvious capabilities. We went with human mystic anyway ��
So you picked the worst possible combo? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Stingaaaa