HUman Sage A/T

I figured I'm sorta proud of how it has turned out so far, though it would be nice to have some constructive feedback. A/T. Currently have 4 raw TPA and 2.2 raw wpa. Pimp claims that I have ~12.5Mod TPA.

Currently in Fortified.

Ruler Name: The Wise Sir DoomedNoob the Texan
Personality & Race: The Sage, Human
Land: 1,429 Acres
Money: 587,343gc (29,557gc daily income)
Food: 348,404 bushels
Runes: 54,390 runes
Population: 41,232 citizens (28.85 per Acre)
Peasants: 10,509 (89% Building Efficiency)
Trade Balance: -538,872gc (0% tax rate)

ME+Stance (no spells): 108.12% off. / 146.92% def.
Soldiers: 0 (67% estimated draft rate)
Swordsmen: 0
Archers: 9,336 (82,296 defense)
Knights: 12,630 (81,933 offense / 55,666 defense)
War-Horses: 2 (up to 2 additional offense)
Prisoners: 0

Total Modified Offense: 81,935 (57.34 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 81,935 (57.34 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 137,962 (96.54 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 82,296 (57.59 per Acre)

Thieves: 5,659 (3.96 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 3,098 (2.17 per Acre / 78% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 15,282 (10.69 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 6,113 (4.28 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 2,292 (1.60 per Acre)

Buildings: 1,117gc to build, 707gc to raze
Away bonus: 52,545gc (12h) / 157,635gc (20h)

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** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) **
27.6% Income (327,573 points)
18.2% Building Effectiveness (279,358 points)
12% Population Limits (286,224 points)
78.8% Food Production (82,002 points)
25.7% Gains in Combat (285,218 points)
126.3% Thievery Effectiveness (374,911 points)
101.2% Magic Effectiveness & Rune Production (240,361 points)

** Science Points in Progress **
Crime: 22,848 points in progress
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** Summary **
Non-Peasants: 75%
Efficiency (SoM): 127.2% off, 133.6% def, 107.1% raw
Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 81,935
Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 137,962
Modified Attack points (calculated): 96,395
Modified Defense points (calculated): 125,458

** Standing Army (At Home) **
Archers: 9,336 (74,837 defense)
Knights: 12,630 (96,392 offense / 50,621 defense)
War Horses: 2 (up to 3 additional offense)
Total Attack points: 96,395
Total Defense points: 125,458

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1. Homes: 143 (10%)
2. Farms: 100 (7%)
3. Banks: 214 (15%)
4. Training Grounds: 243 (17%)
5. Forts: 243 (17%)
6. Guilds: 157 (11%)
7. Towers: 71 (5%)
8. Thieves' Dens: 258 (18.1%)

Total Land: 1,429 Acres (100% built)

** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. +1,430 maximum population, +31.92% birth rate
2. Produce 7,753 bushels (9,691 with FL)
3. 5,925gc, +17.63% income
4. +15.94% offense bonus
5. +20.63% defense bonus
6. Training about 2.78 wizards per hour
7. Produce 944 runes per hour
8. -52.43% losses, +39.32% effectiveness

I know silence is a virtue, but in this case it is not helpful! I'd like some feedback before our imminent war, so if changes is needed it can be put in motion.

(assume this is war build, not pump mode. Get a few schools to protect that sci while pumping)
More pop sci - the rest of them look pretty good, but you can always use more pop sci. Crime, BTW, is high enough for now... more pop is better. Same for magic - you aren't an A/T/M, don't bother putting more into this for a while.

I see you have 1300 BPA total sci. Make room for 15-20% libs, your overall numbers will go up. 20% libs = 32% more sci... 3.8% more pop, 8.8% more income, 5.8% higher BE, 40% higher crime, etc.

I'd make room for libs as follows: 15% from banks, 2% from farms, 3% from guilds. (8% more than enough). Removing all your banks is a bit tough, but you can take the extra .88 ppa and put it all into pes, and that + increase income sci should compensate for the missing banks. It'll up BE as well which is nice.

Overall, good build. Similar stats to what I manage, except I'm warrior so I've got a bit more space. You total BPA might be a bit higher even. (And you are 40% bigger, so getting the same sci at a bigger size means you did well.)

Think Different

Your strat looks pretty good. I'm looking to run something similar next age as Human/Sage. I would probably try to add 10% libraries as that is more than enough - if you add any at all.

Compromised at 10% libs, figure before EOA I'll have a good idea if they are worth it or not. I figure I'll run a human sage again next age, as I feel it can make a great A/T, but have yet to fully part part in that role this age.

1. Homes: 143 (10%)
2. Farms: 71 (5%)
3. Banks: 143 (10%)
4. Training Grounds: 243 (16.9%)
5. Forts: 243 (16.9%)
6. Guilds: 114 (7.9%)
7. Towers: 71 (5%)
8. Thieves' Dens: 257 (17.9%)
9. Libraries: 144 (10%)

nerf banks, homes, some forts and put in stables and hospitals.

lower losses and higher offence beats ability to pay for them in the future. :)

couple of things...
1) dont "show off" prov in fortified, gives a bad over view of off:def numbers
2) no rax, so attack time will suck... should have enough to get to 12hrs in war
3) i would drop the banks for hosps in war

~1.5M Sci points? You can do much better than that. I've had to leave sci alone for RL months this age so I know I could have improved on my numbers.

All in all though, you look solid.


Server: World of Legends (Age 42)
Utopian Date: January 8th, YR11 (2% in the day)
RL Date: April 15th, 2009 (7:01 GMT)

Personality & Race: The Sage, Gnome
Land: 1,500 Acres
Money: 178,986gc (26,084gc daily income)
Food: 33,555 bushels
Runes: 32,359 runes
Population: 50,617 citizens (33.72 per Acre)
Peasants: 11,593 (94% Building Efficiency)

ME+Stance (no spells): 125.8% off. / 110.61% def.
Soldiers: 35 (68.9% estimated draft rate)
Halflings: 0
Pikemen: 2,944 (16,282 defense)
Golems: 25,054 (157,590 offense / 110,852 defense)
War-Horses: 2 (up to 3 additional offense)
Prisoners: 30 (113 offense)

Total Modified Offense: 157,750 (105.10 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 157,750 (105.10 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 130,379 (86.86 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 16,321 (10.87 per Acre)

Thieves: 6,832 (4.55 per Acre / 66% Stealth) (16.8 mod)
Wizards: 4,159 (2.77 per Acre / 88% Mana) (5.77 mod)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 19,283 (12.85 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 7,713 (5.14 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 2,892 (1.93 per Acre)

** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) **
24.7% Income (329,651 points)
21.6% Building Effectiveness (494,322 points)
17.5% Population Limits (766,264 points)
104.9% Food Production (181,887 points)
18.8% Gains in Combat (189,867 points)
100.5% Thievery Effectiveness (297,082 points)
107.5% Magic Effectiveness & Rune Production (339,468 points)

1. Homes: 57 (3.8%)
2. Farms: 61 (4.1%) + 5 in progress (+0.3%)
3. Banks: 112 (7.5%)
4. Training Grounds: 209 (13.9%) + 10 in progress (+0.7%)
5. Armouries: 13 (0.9%)
6. Barracks: 146 (9.7%)
7. Forts: 60 (4%)
8. Guard Stations: 131 (8.7%)
9. Guilds: 197 (13.1%)
10. Towers: 60 (4%)
11. Thieves' Dens: 205 (13.7%) + 10 in progress (+0.7%)
12. Libraries: 167 (11.1%) + 10 in progress (+0.7%)
13. Dungeons: 43 (2.9%)

oooh look at the pretty rainbow build =)

looking at that province makes me never want to choose gnome again..

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Originally Posted by SamStein

looking at that province makes me never want to choose gnome again..

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let's see it sammy boy

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Originally Posted by SamStein

looking at that province makes me never want to choose gnome again..

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come EoA ill consider posting my gnome =)
its about 5-6 times the size of that one... rogue, and puts out better opa/dpa and similar mod TPA

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Originally Posted by _greenie

come EoA ill consider posting my gnome =)
its about 5-6 times the size of that one... rogue, and puts out better opa/dpa and similar mod TPA

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I'll admit I'd like to be up in the 73/74% draft range for some opa/dpa boost. I'll also admit I've been nice and chewed on in wars. Nearly impossible to effectively overpop or disable. Effectiveness is as much about role as it is about stats :)

I assume you're comparing a knight to a knight? At times when I'm visc the numbers get another tidy boost, of course. Those things are just so fickle when you're in the trenches. Naturally that dpa was also posted sans MP or TW.

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Originally Posted by shank

I'll admit I'd like to be up in the 73/74% draft range for some opa/dpa boost. I'll also admit I've been nice and chewed on in wars. Nearly impossible to effectively overpop or disable. Effectiveness is as much about role as it is about stats :)

I assume you're comparing a knight to a knight? At times when I'm visc the numbers get another tidy boost, of course. Those things are just so fickle when you're in the trenches. Naturally that dpa was also posted sans MP or TW.

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nope, im a baron... ~60 honor away from viscount
and whilst you have 69% draft, i only have 64% atm, and i actually have MORE dpa army home than you
and mine is without MP or TW as well...
TW should not be used unless you are getting chained... and even then its debateable

also, gnome is one of the hardest races to over pop, simply due to its lack of hospitals... once a gnome gets broken, it's all down hill from there

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Originally Posted by shank

~1.5M Sci points? You can do much better than that. I've had to leave sci alone for RL months this age so I know I could have improved on my numbers.

All in all though, you look solid.

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This was my first sage, I missed out on the super-sage age a few back. But I do have 1,335 bpa for my ~1.5M books. Not bad, this is one of my best provs in my 5 ages of play. Not sure how that would rate against yours, I'm just curious.