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  1. #46
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    Yes...it's impossible to find full-elite army gnomes on this server....

    He's running 14% homes, you're running 50%.

    There is nothing wrong with a new player running all-elite gnome. Hey, if you don't make mistakes, how will you learn? But you vines, simply refuse to learn.

    As for the two DEs, they have way too little def. DEs with static def like those are why people love to hit DEs in the first place. Unless, of course, they are bait as Astares suggested.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    No barracks, no GS, no TD, no banks, no stables, no dungeons.
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    You should ask as many people as you can to criticise what you plan on doing.

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    I pointed only towards the most obvious. Chances are, vines won't accept that either.
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    Btw there's another flaw in your province:
    Current Available Workers: 16,641
    Workers Needed for Max Efficiency: 11,708
    The last 5k workers aren't boosting your BE, which means you're losing value. Which in turn means you have too many homes, the last 20% or so aren't giving optimal benefit.
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    i finally know why he runs 50% homes.
    He has problem with math and can't work with the modifers so he kept it simple for himself.

    Vines, you either are really retarded OR you are a oscar winning troll.

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    "Hmm... i want many people. 50% homes ftw!"

    btw, i like that he posted that he had found a whole kd playing like him, and then posted intel of one prov :P

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    It can't be easy being vines, and completely impotent.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
    Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
    Step four: thank you for your patience.

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    I guess I'm retarded. Catwalk that used people is for my wizards if I ever choose to wizard pump I have the people to do it with. Didn't wonder I don't up my draft higher than 69%. And I'm making just around the same amount of money people the same net worth are. It's just that I don't want to train the wizards unless I have to because that will lower my income and with 4rawwpa my military running at 200% wages will take up almost every bit of gc I make a day. Which is fine in war. My army is coming back I had another person try to op me.
    The fallowing are from the same kingdom. Check it out. I talk a little bit about both.Military Intelligence on BobTheDragonHitsYou (##:##)
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    Server: World of Legends (Age 40)
    Ruler Name: The Wealthy King Leruni
    Personality & Race: The Merchant, Elf

    ** Summary **
    Non-Peasants: 49.6%
    Efficiency (SoM): 150.5% off, 95.4% def, 105.8% raw
    Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 122,690
    Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 156,210
    Modified Attack points (calculated): 152,854
    Modified Defense points (calculated): 130,125

    ** Standing Army (At Home) **
    Soldiers: 79 (119 offense / 75 defense)
    Archers: 12,403 (59,162 defense)
    Elf Lords: 14,861 (134,195 offense / 70,887 defense)
    War Horses: 12,319 (up to 18,540 additional offense)
    Total Attack points: 152,854
    Total Defense points: 130,125

    ** Troops in Training **
    Elf Lords: 194 (1,752 offense / 925 defense)
    Next 13 hours: 11 13 11 12 12 16 13 11 8 9 12 9 11...
    Seems strong, however, if you look closer one can see many flaws and opening in this military build. It's not as strong as it looks but still a strong military build. My province wouldn't have to worry about it. This build can do good in war very good in war if it has the right back up.
    Military Intelligence on AwaitingActivation (##:##)
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    Server: World of Legends (Age 40)
    Ruler Name: Baron DarKLord the Warrior
    Personality & Race: The Warrior, Human

    ** Summary **
    Non-Peasants: 75.4%
    Efficiency (SoM): 140.8% off, 100.2% def, 86.9% raw
    Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 103,802
    Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 120,279
    Modified Attack points (calculated): 127,748
    Modified Defense points (calculated): 127,747

    ** Standing Army (At Home) **
    Soldiers: 2 (3 offense / 2 defense)
    Swordsmen: 831 (5,850 offense)
    Archers: 12,857 (77,296 defense)
    Knights: 12,587 (106,335 offense / 50,449 defense)
    War Horses: 11,051 (up to 15,560 additional offense)
    Total Attack points: 127,748
    Total Defense points: 127,747

    ** Troops in Training **
    Archers: 300 (1,804 defense)
    Next 12 hours: 21 15 13 20 17 22 19 17 14 21 17 21...
    Knights: 245 (2,070 offense / 982 defense)
    Next 12 hours: 16 13 12 16 14 11 15 10 15 17 15 15...
    This build is very even not much opening. Very strong build. In fact I would say it is almost on par with my build.

    *Red Mist's Military*
    ME+Stance (no spells): 121.81% off. / 129.44% def. Raw: 102.6%
    Soldiers: 1,071 (64.3% estimated draft rate)
    Halflings: 0
    Pikemen: 1,833 (11,863 defense)
    Golems: 24,014 (146,252 offense / 155,419 defense)
    War-Horses: 2 (up to 2 additional offense)
    Prisoners: 0

    Total Modified Offense: 147,559 (99.90 per Acre)
    Practical (50% elites): 74,433 (50.39 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 168,669 (114.20 per Acre)
    Practical (50% elites): 90,959 (61.58 per Acre)
    I'm going to lower my wages lol. No need to pay my military full wages when it is not war.

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    som's arent accurate, so comparing your prov to a SoM is stupid :-)

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    Mine SoM are are accurate because I know how to get them. Now that I got a look at his cb his military doesn't look as strong but still an evenly rounded military.

    The Province of AwaitingActivation (##:##)
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    Server: World of Legends (Age 40)
    Utopian Date: June 8th, YR4
    RL Date: September 10th, 2008 (13:00 GMT)
    Origin: Unformatted (1st hand)

    Ruler Name: Baron DarKLord the Warrior
    Personality & Race: The Warrior, Human
    Land: 1,628 Acres
    Money: 71,704gc (45,662gc daily income)
    Food: 120,245 bushels
    Runes: 74,756 runes
    Population: 38,440 citizens (23.61 per Acre)
    Peasants: 15,611 (86% Building Efficiency)
    Trade Balance: 130,631gc

    ME+Stance (no spells): 135.37% off. / 112.64% def.
    Soldiers: 0 (59.4% estimated draft rate)
    Swordsmen: 769 (5,205 offense)
    Archers: 11,006 (74,383 defense)
    Knights: 11,054 (89,780 offense / 49,805 defense)
    War-Horses: 9,780 (up to 13,239 additional offense)
    Prisoners: 579 (2,351 offense)

    Total Modified Offense: 110,575 (67.92 per Acre)
    Practical (100% elites): 110,575 (67.92 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 124,188 (76.28 per Acre)
    Practical (0% elites): 74,383 (45.69 per Acre)

    HINT: To include thieves/mages estimation in report,
    copy target's kingdom page before copying the CB.

    ** Thievery Advisor: **
    (For more accurate results, use the Thievery Calc.)
    Money: 153 thieves to steal up to 5,944gc
    Food: 502 thieves to steal up to 45,092 bushels
    Runes: 1,246 thieves to steal up to 19,623 runes
    Peasants: 3,815 thieves to kidnap up to 289 peasants
    Peasants in War: 17,784 thieves for 624 peasants
    Arson: 8,000 thieves to burn up to 32 homes
    Horses: 11,722 thieves to release up to 1,247 horses
    Last edited by vines; 10-09-2008 at 12:37. Reason: Because someone was cry that I didn't post a cb on the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    Mine SoM are are accurate because I know how to get them.
    wrong =)

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    Oh you think so uh. Well compair the SoM with the cb. It's not always this accurate but most of the time it is because like I said I know how to get a SoM. The more thieves one send the better the read. For same size provinces send two. For smaller sized provinces send 5-10.
    Last edited by vines; 10-09-2008 at 12:42. Reason: Adding info about getting an SoM

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    Can you stop being so dumb, or is that too much to ask for?
    SoM's are never accurate.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
    Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
    Step four: thank you for your patience.

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    Not the number of units but the numbers regarding off and def can be very accurate. And the military wages too and the number units his or she is training. Shows what you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VT2 View Post
    Can you stop being so dumb, or is that too much to ask for?
    SoM's are never accurate.
    wrong as well :)
    just highly unlikely that any bit of info is likely to be accurate, except army return time...

    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    Not the number of units but the numbers regarding off and def can be very accurate. And the military wages too and the number units his or she is training. Shows what you know.
    you dont know how SoM's work do you?

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