Attack NW penalty

[jon720]

"Attacking vastly different size opponents will result in higher attack times and lower gains."

It is affecting about nw only or nw + land? How does the combination work? Any formula? How large is too large and how small is too small? Rumors saying no larger than 115% and no smaller than 80%. Lets say i am 200k network sitting at 1500 acres: for maximum gain i can only hit within
160k-230k? If I get 200 acres for hitting 230k (+15% my size) opponent, will I get lesser for hitting someone 240k (+20% my size)?

[_greenie]

hitting within 20% of your nw (80-120%) is a pretty good guide =)

[Catwalk]

It is affecting about nw only or nw + land? How does the combination work?

NW difference determines what % of the target's land (or science, or resources) you gain. This % is then obviously applied to his acres. So if you have two targets at same NW, one at 2000 and one at 3000 acres, you'll obviously gain 50% more from the second one. You will gain the same % from both, though.

Here are a few guestimates of what the gains will look like:
125% NW 10% gains
115% NW 12% gains
100% NW 14% gains
80% NW 9% gains

Some think that max gains % is a bit over your NW, I think max % is for hitting same NW.

If I get 200 acres for hitting 230k (+15% my size) opponent, will I get lesser for hitting someone 240k (+20% my size)?

You will get a lower %, yes. So if they have same acres, you'll get more acres by hitting the 230k guy.

[Realest]

actually, greenie, 90-110 is best for reasons i wont go into here ;)

catwalk has the right idea, but his gains are still pretty off, by at least 10%. He is on the right track that u wanna hit close to your own nw for max gains but you'd still wanna topfeed.

[Ishandra]

I believe gains are also capped at a % of your own acres as well and that orc 30% gains bonus does not allow you to go over this cap. In effect the bonus makes it more viable to bottom feed for best gains.

[Catwalk]

Correct, the cap is both 20% of the enemy's acres and 20% of your own. If you're small at high NW and topfeed, you run into this easily.

[_greenie]

actually, greenie, 90-110 is best for reasons i wont go into here ;)

catwalk has the right idea, but his gains are still pretty off, by at least 10%. He is on the right track that u wanna hit close to your own nw for max gains but you'd still wanna topfeed.

ive found hitting 80-85% of nw gets me calld a "bottomfeeder" on occasion, but the beauty of it is, whilst the gains arent as high as hitting ~95% of nw, its almost always a safe hit, as with your attack you push them slightly out of retal range =)

[Realest]

but max gains is in the range i mentioned

[goodz]

lol

thanks greenie_ i shall now change how i select targets:P

[clarey]

you dirty bottomfeeder

[RAKIdaRHINO]

65% nw gains are lovely.. the losses too ;<

[_greenie]

lol

thanks greenie_ i shall now change how i select targets:P

works best when the person you are hitting is the biggest in their kd =D
knocks them out of retal range, so (from their kd at least) it's a safe hit
i would rather hit for 6-7% land safely, then hit for 10% land and get retalled for 8-9%

you dirty bottomfeeder

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[goodz]

i prefer to hit into kds i dislike and then say it was an accident when i get in trouble:P

i noted after bein chained all the top honor kds have tons of sci, and they weont retal cuz they dont want to grow, its like free goodies

[Gothmog]

I think you'll find the amount of sci beeing the same, just that beeing chained is very similar to landdropping which increase the effect not the amount :-P