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    Next Age Changes

    What is the logic in rewarding top KD's with more trades? The top KD's are the ones who already trade (along with 75% of the utopian KD's), crosslog, etc. Top alliances like ABS and Cov basically get to clip the few weak spots they have and further their monopoly on the server.

    Sure, on paper it sounds great. Give all KD's a chance to challenge the top and get more bonuses but it won't work out that way. The idea of legal trading is a good one but rewarding the KD's that are already the best at it is counterproductive and won't achieve growth in the game as you'd like it to. If you want to attract more players (and a new player with NEVER be invited to a top KD) then rewarding the top KD's won't do it.
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    :) (:

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    uhm those changes you got from the old boards this link i guess:
    http://boards.swirve.com/board.cgi?b...0&spec=6793624
    if you look in the top of the post you will see this: Aug 5th 2:59 PM

    meaning those where the changes from last age ;)

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    um...are those not the changes form last age?

    edit: ahh zerocool, you type faster than I

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    Angry

    this game has been going downhill for quite a while now, and now you add more changes that do nothing but legalize something that has always been considered cheating. Its equivalent in the real world to saying "they gunna do it anyway, we may as well legalize theft"! if you wanna really help the game, and make it actually fun again, then turn the clock back about 5 years.

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    Greetings, Utopians!

    I bring you news from the development lab, as well as a few other
    pieces of news. However, I know you're going to ignore everything else
    except the Game Update news so you might as well skip straight to that
    now...

    --

    |Game News|

    First, just to reiterate the game dates:

    WoL and Genesis both end on Monday 3rd Nov
    WoL will restart on Tuesday 4th Nov
    Genesis will take a break for 1-2 weeks, and then be restarted

    **Game ending times for both games will be significantly different.
    The fact that they're both starting so close together is a
    once-off.**

    --

    |Game Updates|

    So we've added some new features. The first thing you'll see when you
    log in on the next round is a new account system and UI.

    Let's get the premium one out of the way first.

    1. Province Sitting
    This is the official province sitting option. It is the *only*
    official sitting option. You'll see the function in your shiny new
    account section. In short, it costs 25c/day with the following rules:

    -Players may only sit one province at a time
    -The minimum number of sitting days in any one sitting session is 3
    -The maximum number of sitting days over the age (per province) is
    21
    -Only players within your KD may sit your province
    -Only the player who is sitting the province may access it during
    this time, however, the original owner may cancel the sitting, after
    the initial period (3 days) is over
    -Province sitting will end when the player a) runs out of credits, b)
    runs out of maximum allowable number of days, or c) cancels the
    province sitting

    You'll see where you can purchase this in your main account.
    Currently, it accepts Paypal but we have premium SMS on the way in a
    few days.

    2. Province Moving

    Province moving is now official but STRICTLY limited per round:

    -The maximum number of moves allowed *per account* is 3
    -The maximum number of moves *per KD* is 3

    You can physically move your province into another KD with the
    following conditions in place:

    -The moved province will revert to its initial state, with initial
    resources/cash, and 3 days of protection
    -You cannot move province if there is no space in the KD
    -The Monarch in the receiving KD must always approve the move

    3. Province Trading

    Province trading is now official but STRICTLY limited per round. Just
    to be completely clear, province trading is taking over a province
    which used to belong to another player. The rules are as follows (all
    on a per round basis unless otherwise specified):

    - You can switch provinces with another person - provinces don't
    move, only the player controlling the province changes

    -The maximum number of trades allowed per province is 3
    -The maximum number of trades allowed per account is 3
    -The maximum number of trades allowed per KD is 3

    Province trading behaviour is as follows:

    - You can take over someone else's province, and destroy your own in
    the process
    - You can take over someone else's province, and leave your old
    province in the Monarch's control - who can then assign it or let it
    be destroyed, but not log into it

    - KDs can earn bonus trades. Note that this system is experimental.
    We want to allow people sufficient freedom to trade, but also prevent
    abuse of the system, with people creating farm KDs.

    This system will be tweaked over time, with player input. Initially,
    it will work like this:

    Every month:
    -Each KD will get 1 bonus trade

    Every 2 weeks
    -The top 50 KDs in terms of NW/Honor will get an additional 1 trade

    Every 3 weeks:
    -The top 100 KDs in terms of NW/Honor will get an additional 1 trade

    Every 4 weeks
    -The top 250 KDs in terms of NW/Honor will get an additional 1 trade

    Additional Bonus Trade Behavior

    - if you rank for both NW and Honor, you will only be allocated *1*
    bonus trade
    - if you qualified for the last round of bonus trades, you will not
    be selected for the next e.g., if you are in the top 50, you will be
    automatically disqualified for the next top 100 and top 250 rewards

    --

    |Other News|

    I don't normally pimp the other games in our network but in this
    case, I think it's worth it. Our friends over at Trukz.com are running
    a competition for an *8ft* Optimus Prime. A giant Optimus Prime,
    people! If you want to check it out, go to www.trukz.com, you'll see
    the link when you get there.

    --

    We'll be transferring all games across to new servers over the next
    few days so you might see a little downtime. It's reasonably unlikely
    but you never know with Internet magic.


    --

    The OMAC Development Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimepig View Post
    this game has been going downhill for quite a while now, and now you add more changes that do nothing but legalize something that has always been considered cheating. Its equivalent in the real world to saying "they gunna do it anyway, we may as well legalize theft"! if you wanna really help the game, and make it actually fun again, then turn the clock back about 5 years.
    No, turn clock 100 years forward, create 80k jdorje clones and bring them back. I think that will be best solution to fix this game.

    Now stop whining.
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    No, turn clock 100 years forward, create 80k jdorje clones and bring them back. I think that will be best solution to fix this game.

    Now stop whining.
    OR we can listen to you right?

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    Put a fork in me...I'm done. Was fun...ain't so much any more and going south with the proposed changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poei View Post
    OR we can listen to you right?
    ofc
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    YEEEESSSSS!!! Finally. I have been waiting for so long for this. Finally I will be able to compete in a fair manner with the top KD:s without cheating. I have been gone for a long time but finally I can come back.

    I can finally get rid of these stupid ghetto kingdoms where I don't want to be. I can play with people of my own skill and let the Ghetto kingdoms play with people of their own skill. I can finally find a kingdom that plays the way I want to play the game.

    This will really put the top KD:s to the test. Now you no longer need to cheat to get to the top. You can finally play with your friends without cheating.

    Thank you OMAC I have been waiting for this change for years. FINALLY!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul View Post
    What is the logic in rewarding top KD's with more trades? The top KD's are the ones who already trade (along with 75% of the utopian KD's), crosslog, etc. Top alliances like ABS and Cov basically get to clip the few weak spots they have and further their monopoly on the server.

    Sure, on paper it sounds great. Give all KD's a chance to challenge the top and get more bonuses but it won't work out that way. The idea of legal trading is a good one but rewarding the KD's that are already the best at it is counterproductive and won't achieve growth in the game as you'd like it to. If you want to attract more players (and a new player with NEVER be invited to a top KD) then rewarding the top KD's won't do it.
    #1 A new player will never be invited to a top kingdom, your right. This would be different from now how? No new player will ever play in a top kingdom, OMAC cannot and will not devise a system that would encourage this, top kingdoms would simply quit.

    #2 Top kingdoms "monopolize" the top of the charts by dedicating a quantity of time to this game that is approximately equal to the amount of time you spend breathing as well as being smarter than you. Giving you the ability to trade in as many players as you like will not change that. Nor will giving them 1-2 more trades.

    #3 I think at this point it's not growth we're looking for, first you have to plug the drain before you start adding more water to the bathtub.

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    The rewards system will not "plug the drain", it gives more unnecessary advantages to KD's that don't need them.

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    How is being able to trade people in a couple more times an age really an advantage worth crying over?

    Its a reward for people doing well so they can continue doing well if people want to leave. Are people in the top KDs going to leave that much anyways? Prolly not.

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