and so is Obama.
and so is Obama.
Yes we can
Just like Obama said.
Next thing you know they will call me a Communist for sharing my toys when I was in kindergarten. :)
how is this communism?
the economy is in **** now. the country has to move forward together or it will never recover. and so his tax plans make the most economic sense
lol, people in America throw around the term communism like nothing when in reality they wouldnt recognize communism or socialism if it was shoved down their throats.
LOL. they would notice, lots of americans tend to be egoists.
Yet we're ok with partially nationalizing failing banks...LOL. they would notice, lots of americans tend to be egoists.
And no, Americans would not notice it. They didn't notice the not so subtle redistribution of wealth to the top 1% in this country, and wouldn't have called Obama's plans of reversing that abomination socialism if the talking point wasn't shoved down their throats by McCain and Palin. They also didn't notice that Palin's support and expansion of the oil revenue sharing program in Alaska is a hell of a lot closer to socialism than anything Obama has proposed. (at least in the sense of the term that they like to fling around) She paraded that around the came trail while at the same time blabbering about Obama leading us to a socialist state!
Ok, so Sarah Palin is a complete moron who really isn't smarter than a 5th grader, so by all means don't take her word for it. Here's McSame's view on taxes from a Q&A in the 2000 Republican primary:
And that's McCain fighting the liberal defense of progressive taxation. There's also a fiscal argument to be made, but it's clear he's ok with the 'spreading the wealth' idea that they now harp on...Audience member: "Why is it that someone like my father who goes to school for 13 years gets penalized in a huge tax bracket because he's a doctor."
McCain: "I think it's to some degree because we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more."
Audience member: "Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism?"
McCain: "Here's what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."
Ok, Ok, so that's old news. That was from his 'mavericky' days and since then he's had to about-face on a lot in order to appeal to all parts of the base. Then how about this simple nugget: progressive taxation is not socialism.
So, no, Americans do not know socialism from a hole in the wall...
Did government force Obama to share his toys?Originally Posted by Swirvin' Birds
Did government force Obama to give away his toys?
By the way, income tax as done by at least the USA government is communist.
Therefore making Barack Obama's tax plan communist.
Progressive tax is also communist.
"No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken."
US Constitution article I section X Paragraph IV
Amendment XVI is communist, it was added in 1913 and amends article I section X paragraph IV.
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
Amendment XVI
"A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."
"Communist Manifesto" 2nd plank
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
Karl Marx
Amendment 16 is fully legal, and should be treated as such.
From each according to his/her abilities to finance every failing company in the US plus pay for the government's mistakes.
*Wonder what Karl Marx would have to say about that.*
Dolgil Rosethorn
If it's broke, fix it.
If it's not, don't.
If you do not like the results, change your methods.
Quit making the same old mistakes. Make new ones.
I just think it's funny. He wasn't far off the truth there. :)Did government force Obama to share his toys?
Did government force Obama to give away his toys?
Go live in China and then cry Communism. Notice the dirt poor working class and the rich bankers they have. Seems the way Republicans like it to me...
Last edited by Swirvin' Birds; 08-11-2008 at 09:21.
at least socialize health care. I really don't want to pay for someone else's cancer, but I don't want to see another die of it. Especially because they don't have money. I thought this was the country of Washington, Jefferson and Hamilton, where it was about freedom
dka
as i told you in the other thread, even if it was on a slightly different matter: you are wrong.
if usa was communist there would be no tax because you wouldnt own anything or earn anything.. no income no property no juicy bank accounts no inheritance and NO TAX.
yes, thats right. No tax. does that make people wanting tax cuts communist too? :O
(after all, thats the level of reasoning you seem to want to maintain.. )
Than I guess Karl Marx the founder of communism doesn't know what communism is.
I guess that also means the Soviet Union didn't tax it's people either.
That would make China, Cuba, etc. not communist.
That would also make the communist manifesto, not communist.
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