That's not necessarily true, since the old Faeries had 5 stealth regeneration and Meteor Showers. Current Dark Elf can only have one of these.DE > faer =)
That's not necessarily true, since the old Faeries had 5 stealth regeneration and Meteor Showers. Current Dark Elf can only have one of these.DE > faer =)
DE/rogue won't be that good. 5 stealth an hour means your going to lose a lot of thieves over the course of a 48 hour war. Unless you plan on running banks and ToG it back, you won't be able to replace all of the lost thieves. DE won't be able to match a gnome in terms of thievery or an elf in terms of magic. If an elf runs a decent a/m you won't be able to MV his clearsight so all he'll need is 10-15% wt to completely screw you over.
DE/rogue will only be effective vs. people that don't run WT. If you're a t/m in a total ghetto you might be able to pull it off assuming you run into a fair amount of other ghettos without WT.
DE is going to need to be super pumped in order to get anywhere, and even then a gnome with decent thief science will run over you and be able to replace thief losses.
i would say, build a lot of hospitals and save the Night Rangers in combat. +1 offense specialist is the only way to catch the top land/nw player on your island OOp!
Originally Posted by nightcrave
That all spells bonus is something i would so love to have again. Of all bonuses that i've ever experienced in utopia, that was always the one i loved the most... And that eventhough i never played t/m.
Groovy!
30% TDs
24% Guilds
20% Forts
10% banks
10% homes
6% farms
a strong T/M with WTs? why??? makes no sense waste of space.
18% TDs is way to low and im tempted to say 15% homes is too much too.
Let the idiots run their T/M's in whatever way they want.
The dumber they are, the better.
Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.
Step one: replace everything that works.
Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
Step four: thank you for your patience.
Thanks Utopia4Life, its good to find someone who gives advice, (unlike some)!
Should have come on here ages ago, instead of muddling through when your KD mates don't know!
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DE is even stronger than the old faery that we know. Look at the elite attack value.
faery did have tog
feary at one time had all spells
just like one time halfers had all thievery ops....
god i miss those days.....
Just pointing out that this combo, while good, does have a major drawback. In any war lasting more than a few days you're going to see severe thief shortages. Think about how hard it is to maintain thieves with a Gnome/rogue, and then add a higher number of ops because you're going to have that +2 stealth per hour, a much lower success rate, and higher cost because you don't have the gnome bonuses. In a war lasting more than a few days......you might lose a lot of efficiency as a thief, faster than you can train in some cases, leaving you as an attacker and DEs are in no way the best attackers in the game, although they are not the worst either.
I actually have to agree with VT2. running T/Ms is stupid at best. T/Ms will get owned with the current races and changes.
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