I ran a 400 acre province with 100% BE through Angel BC....10% banks provide an 11.25% increase,1000 gc's an hour is the gain.Up to each how they build and play,myself,I only use banks at start up20% min.,at oop go to war build(which has no banks)and pretty much there for the age...:) btw,as an orc,I dream of 100% BE...lol
they aren't completely necessary, certainly not 10% of them.
each working peasant(which is probably all of them) generates 2.25gc a day. super quick calculation.
1000 acres*25 pop/acre=25000 total pop
65%military+4% mages=69%non peasant pop
25000*.69=17250 non peasants
25000-17250=7750 peasants
7750*2.25gc/peasant=17437 gc/day
25000*65%=16250 military&thieves
16250-3500 thieves(3.5tpa)=12750 troops
12750*1gc/troop(200% payrate)=12750gc military upkeep
17437-12750=4687gc/day income
boost that up with a higher population, and some income science, and you can actually get by with out any banks. i went without them last age, except at the beginning, and right after a war when i needed to pump.
if your an orc, do Learn attacks OOW to boost your sci
yes, 4.6k income is plenty. Please war my kd. Send me a pm with loc.
Question about the Orc - Warhero setup regarding the elite credits
the guide says for war hero "Specalist Credits"
Quote >> "Gain 50% more Specialist and Building Credits"
and the final changes thread says
Quote >> "Can spend credits on elites only, at a cost of 1 credit per elite"
credits on elites only are NOT Specalist Credits
so does that leave the Orcs with no credits?
is omac gonna change the guide to be generic training credits?
is orc realy getting nerfed here?
No specs credits... But you woun't need them,with leet credits you save enough gold to train your def specs.
so orc warhero is sucky combo then...
Why would it be a sucky combo?
Your getting elite credits for an 8/2 Elite worth 800, instead of spec credits worth 350....?
It works, it helps out the Orc economy problem and essentially if you are an active attacker you should be able to train at least 65% or more of your elites for free with credits.
Not too mention 25% extra casualties and spreading the plague.
With all the attacking you will be doing your science should be fairly well pumped for an Orc and you should be plundering your piratey Orc ass off.
Last edited by Jobolob; 29-01-2009 at 05:42.
I think it is a real good combo.You can train those expensive leets you use with the "spec credits" and spend the gold training the cheap def. specs.It is designed to give the orc an econ boost.and it does.
Your getting elite credits for an 8/2 Elite worth 800
Gain 50% more Specialist Credits
... actually your not getting 50% Specialist Credits or Elite Credits from war hero as an orc at all.
Someone from omac please elaborate whats gonna happen with Orc and the 50% training credits from Warhero
the spec credit is now used for training leets only with orc.
yes
my issue is, is the +50% credits from warhero gonna work to gimme +50 more elite cred or 0 spec cred
They havent updated the guide yet.
Final changes posted by Roisin http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=581226
Orc
* The spec change is scrapped, keeping 5/0
* +30% science costs (down from +40%)
* Can spend credits on elites only, at a cost of 1 credit per elite
They have already told you. Spec credits become elite credits at a cost of 1 credit per elite.
Warhero will work the same as if it was spec credits. Orc def specs will now ONLY be trained by gc.
OMAC havent posted anything about different percentages of credits gained from attacks nor for the warhero personality regarding this.
If they had changed something this drastically it would have been posted and if it has changed without them telling anyone, then they have around 2000 Orc Warhero players that are not going to be happy.
Since the player base on WoL at the moment is around 16000 I dont think OMAC can afford to piss off 2000 players.
elite credits if you like.they are one in the same.They haven't updated the guide yet.maybe they will specify it when they update it.
I hope that WH "specalist" cred will work for the orc "elite" credits.
I study law btw, techniclaitys like this mean a lot :p
They will work, and if they dont OMAC will definetly need to rectify the situation. Like I said at the moment there are around 2000 Orc Warhero's on WoL.Originally Posted by Flamzart
Something as trivial as this could not have been missed by Omac, and if this is the case, then alot of people certainly wouldnt have picked them if the ratio between Warhero 50% on spec credits, and Warhero 50% Elite credits was a huge difference.
OMAC didnt say anything about it because there is no change in the ratios.
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