and on a personal note i dont really believe in debating how badly ppl needs to get punished for doing crime. for criminals, its simple. they shouldnt have done crime in the first place. and when they do commit them and get caught, then its really not up to them to decide whats the right punishment for them and whats too much. as for the ppl debating FOR them, why even bother? they knew the consequences, and they should know something is wrong before they do it. if they do it anyway and get caught, then punish them... why helping them?
the REAL thing ppl should be debating about is what happens to innocent ppl that gets falsely accused. and in that case, instead of coming up with a softer sentence so they dont die for nothing, ppl should be focusing on how to improve the law system and fix loop holes and decrease the chance of this happening