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    honestly u guys need to stop talking **** just because its vines. once he builds up his prov it will be pretty strong.

    he is only at 56% draft atm say he drafts up to 66% an additional 10% meaning over 3k more soliders.

    he will have ~6k soliders total say he trains
    4k> knights
    2k> thieves

    he'll have over 100 opa all elites out with 57dpa, 3 TPA

    he can probably drop some homes to 30% and get some hospitals, lose some farms but that really it.

    and this is assuming he drafts to 66%, he can proabbly go even higher. especially after his sci gets better
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    He wont drop homes though and he wont train thieves.

    He might not even train the soldiers, judging by the last 3 CBs I've tooke of him being online with ~450k GC and 1k soldiers.
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    well common, based on that logic he wouldnt have any army or thieves at all.

    he might not drop some homes for hospitals but thats just his loss. but he will defininately train.. if i remember correctly he use to talk all the time about drafting 80%+ armies lol

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    Toast is correct I did have 100opa and 57dpa with army out. Howevery I am changing my military build to have 70opamax and 80dpa with full army out. This ratio will allow me to break just about any one while keeping safe. If one tries to build up more opa in an effort to break my province they will in affect be allow it so I need to send less of my attacking force thus I will still be able to maintain dpa at home that I would like too.
    Last edited by vines; 07-02-2009 at 22:58. Reason: I will post my example province right now.

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    toast, you obviously don't know vines very well. He will never have a draft as high as 66%, because he never lets his BE go below 100%. He won't drop his homes, because that will also cause his BE to drop, and for some strange reason he thinks 37% Homes is strong. As you can see above, he thinks 70opa will break just about anyone, that's how naive he is. He claims to be pure attacker, yet doesn't have the military power of most hybrids, so it's all a big joke. Any decent A/T or A/M would totally shred this province, no matter how much he adjusts it, because there is no strategic intelligence involved in his setups.
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    The Province of SageWay ()
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    Server: Genesis #19
    Utopian Date: March 24th, YR7 (2% in the day)
    RL Date: February 7th, 2009 (23:31 GMT)

    Ruler Name: The Wise Lord Tatic
    Personality & Race: The Sage, Human
    Land: 1,088 Acres
    Money: 52,335gc (46,617gc daily income)
    Food: 337,450 bushels
    Runes: 22,500 runes
    Population: 30,955 citizens (28.45 per Acre)
    Peasants: 13,000 (109% Building Efficiency)
    Trade Balance: -143,370gc (0% tax rate)

    ME+Stance (no spells): 148.01% off. / 132.49% def.
    Soldiers: 1,065 (55% estimated draft rate)
    Swordsmen: 0
    Archers: 7,281 (57,879 defense)
    Knights: 6,266 (55,645 offense / 24,905 defense)
    War-Horses: 1,998 (up to 2,957 additional offense)
    Prisoners: 0

    Total Modified Offense: 60,179 (55.31 per Acre)
    Practical (100% elites): 60,179 (55.31 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 84,195 (77.39 per Acre)
    Practical (0% elites): 59,290 (54.49 per Acre)

    Thieves: 2,412 (2.22 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
    Wizards: 931 (0.86 per Acre / 42% Mana)

    Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
    Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 4,870 (4.48 / Acre)
    Estimated Thieves Number: 1,948 (1.79 per Acre)
    Estimated Wizards Number: 730 (0.67 per Acre)

    ** Networth Table: **
    Total Networth: 167,401gc (153.86 per Acre)
    Land (90% built): 55,488gc (33%) - [15+40gc]
    Archers: 43,686gc (26%) - [6gc]
    Knights: 32,896gc (20%) - [5.25gc]
    Peasants: 13,000gc (8%) - [1gc]
    Thieves: 9,648gc (6%) - [4gc]
    Science (estimated): 6,110gc (4%) - [1/92gc]
    Wizards: 3,724gc (2%) - [4gc]
    Soldiers: 1,598gc (1%) - [1.5gc]
    War Horses: 1,199gc (1%) - [0.6gc]
    Money: 52gc (0%) - [1/1000gc]

    Buildings: 1,029gc to build, 622gc to raze
    Away bonus: 65,000gc (12h) / 195,000gc (20h)


    ** Export Line [ver 14] -- Crystal-Ball [ver 36]: **
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    Buildings Report of SageWay ()
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    Server: Genesis #19
    Ruler Name: Lord Tatic
    Personality: The Sage
    Race: Human
    Building Efficiency: 109%
    Kingdom Stance: Normal

    1. Homes: 374 (34.4%) + 61 in progress (+5.6%)
    2. Farms: 57 (5.2%) + 1 in progress (+0.1%)
    3. Training Grounds: 131 (12%) + 28 in progress (+2.6%)
    4. Forts: 131 (12%) + 28 in progress (+2.6%)
    5. Guilds: 93 (8.5%) + 16 in progress (+1.5%)
    6. Towers: 28 (2.6%) + 5 in progress (+0.5%)
    7. Stables: 113 (10.4%)
    8. Dungeons: 9 (0.8%) + 13 in progress (+1.2%)

    Total Land: 1,088 Acres (86% built)
    In Progress: 152 Acres (14%)

    ** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
    1. +2,992 maximum population, +98.36% birth rate
    2. Produce 5,436 bushels (6,795 with FL)
    3. +17.32% offense bonus
    4. +17.32% defense bonus
    5. Training about 2.03 wizards per hour
    6. Produce 458 runes per hour
    7. Produce 123 horses/hour, hold 6,780 horses
    8. 180 prisoners (540 offense, 90gc, 90 jobs)

    ** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
    1. +3,480 maximum population, +100% birth rate
    2. Produce 5,532 bushels (6,915 with FL)
    3. +20.4% offense bonus
    4. +20.4% defense bonus
    5. Training about 2.38 wizards per hour
    6. Produce 540 runes per hour
    8. 440 prisoners (1,320 offense, 220gc, 220 jobs)

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    Science Intelligence on SageWay )
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    Server: Genesis #19
    Books to Allocate: 1,088 books

    ** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) **
    14.3% Income (73,053 points)
    10.2% Building Effectiveness (73,059 points)
    6.7% Population Limits (73,055 points)
    81.9% Food Production (73,054 points)
    14.3% Gains in Combat (73,066 points)
    61.5% Thievery Effectiveness (73,056 points)
    61.5% Magic Effectiveness & Rune Production (73,059 points)

    ** Science Points in Progress **
    Alchemy: 2,074 points in progress
    Tools: 2,068 points in progress
    Housing: 2,072 points in progress
    Food: 2,073 points in progress
    Military: 2,061 points in progress
    Crime: 2,071 points in progress
    Channeling: 2,068 points in progress

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    I am going lower stables to 10%. I am going to lower farms to 4% then 3%. I will increase the amount of jails I have as the jails fill up. 5% dungeons is the most I will ever need for my type of army. Oh I almost for got to tell you guys what I plan as my draft, my draft will be 70%.
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    Last edited by vines; 07-02-2009 at 23:18.

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    Total Modified Offense: 60,179 (55.31 per Acre)

    LOL yea vines that is really some powerful attacking power you have there.. NOT.

    And nice job having more horse space than you have offensive troops, more wasted building space lmfao.

    This is such a horrible province. I can't wait til Ezzer kicks the crap out of it in a few days.
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    As I said before I'm going to lower stables to 10% that will give me around the right amount. I am looking forward to facing Ezzer's human sage province. It will serve as a good example of this province in combat. I'm going to give him as much time as he needs. That is the main reason I am staying the same size.

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    My DE sage has triple his TPA, triple his WPA and better practical offence and practical defence, with only 10 DPA less turtled defence.

    Thats while also having 15% Hospitals among other things.
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    He has nothing to do with losing men I have rebuilt my built 4 time with in the last 2 days and I'm rebuilding my military structure. When Ezzer's province faces mine that is the true test. If my example province is as weak as you say it is then it will fail.

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    lol 40% homes.........what a horrible human sage build

    I bet Vines always goes for the 4 extra hrs option in his attacks

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    Most of the times I don't only when the province I'm attacking is really open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    He has nothing to do with losing men I have rebuilt my built 4 time with in the last 2 days and I'm rebuilding my military structure.
    that strikes me as a little wasteful vines
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    Total Modified Offense: 294,491 (149.49 per Acre)
    Practical (10% elites): 147,276 (74.76 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 149,878 (76.08 per Acre)
    Practical (90% elites): 134,955 (68.51 per Acre)

    Thieves: 12,600 (6.40 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
    Wizards: 4,677 (2.37 per Acre / 56% Mana)

    Thats my DE now. Might get myself razed down to Vines' size so can wipe the floor with him for a laugh. >100% in both T and M sciences with 20% TD and 15% Hospitals.
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    On a side note, ETB sucks!

    Awesome concert last night :p

    On topic - Shank, he has to continue rebuilding, he has to make sure his setup can beat mine :)

    Update: My province is now 24h into it's life. I failed my first spell! yay! :p
    Oh yes, currently only 900 acres. 200 acres currently in exploration though so I'll be oop at 1100 acres, fitting of vines size.
    Last edited by Ezzerland; 08-02-2009 at 13:26.

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