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    You guys are shameless bullying vines like that, what happen to 1-1 honorable squabbles!?
    I dare bet nobody and i mean NO ONE could out talk vines man to man.

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    He's an android.
    Logic does not affect him.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
    Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
    Step four: thank you for your patience.

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    Vines turns to VT2: Mr. I like to post did you know that once you get to 5,000 posts you will become Sir Post-A-Lot. You better hurry up before someone beats you to it.

    No, the problem is some of them don't know what's going on. For example, maul he thinks that I don't run 80-90%. The people that actually seen me do it VT2 being one of them know better and this why his is not arguing that fact.

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    recently came up against a human with 83.9% draft rate. i was 9% bigger in acres than him and was about 20-25% bigger in nw than me, but i could break him and he couldnt come close to double tap me so i beat him on gains then he starved for like 4 hours and lost 8% of his army or something similar. lawl. after that he quickly diminished and then turtled.

    as vines says, you'd have to be 1)skilled

    and i would add

    2)active
    3)in a good kd,

    to run this sort of a strat.

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    You would not be able to break a human province I was running even if we were the same size. Unless you were running all elites.
    John Snowstorm I don't your size but if you feel lucky you can find out if you could take me, but I'm telling you I'm not one to take lightly. And I never take an opponent lightly.

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    nah, i gather youre 4k, im only 2, i only joined gen 11 days ago. thats why i chose artisan, so i could pump my lites quickly, i just wanted to experiment a bit before next age.

    my point wasn't this immature, 'i could take you easily' crap, just that that strat requires skill, activity and a good kd, none of which did this guy have. And also showing that 80-90% draft was possible.

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    Nope I'm 2k also and I make this around around 3 weeks ago.

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    pm'd. although if we're near the same size in acres then theres no way we going to be nw matched. i also want to war before end of age.

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    Even if you were the same net you would be not match. I still have not built up all my tgs. See you would have to have more land than me to match my net worth and just by having land you would get a lot net worth forcing the size of the army your province could be and still be the same net as mine. This province has not been around for too long but I have attack Dwarfs, DE, Elf, Human, orc, and a gnome. With every province having full army at home. And as I get bigger and land the more power this province will become and this is the reason why the weakened the gnome elite.

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    Vines, didn't you already die once this age?

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    Grrr getting all behind with all these errors.
    As of last login i was 84% draft with 238 Npa.
    That was 2 days back..once i log in all prolly have like 6k+troops to train :P

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    Sir post-a-lot is prior to 4k, idiot.
    I've been there already.
    Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.

    Step one: replace everything that works.
    Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
    Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
    Step four: thank you for your patience.

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    Dude I didn't know they even had that. That was a joke, now I'm like :0.
    Any ways I'm about to attack someone with the province that this thread has been about.

    So here are my province states before the attack and the opponents stats before the attack.
    The Province of Gs Spot (##:##)
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    Server: Genesis #19
    Utopian Date: June 2nd, YR14 (93% in the day)
    RL Date: March 31st, 2009 (1:26 GMT)

    Ruler Name: Lord Wet and Wild the Craftsman
    Personality & Race: The Artisan, Gnome
    Land: 2,500 Acres
    Money: 2,463,849gc (58,026gc daily income)
    Food: 519,890 bushels
    Runes: 70,469 runes
    Population: 90,607 citizens (36.24 per Acre)
    Peasants: 20,227 (105% Building Efficiency)
    Trade Balance: -46,871gc (0% tax rate)

    ME+Stance (no spells): 124.47% off. / 141.33% def.
    Soldiers: 0 (74.9% estimated draft rate)
    Halflings: 0
    Pikemen: 2,197 (15,525 defense)
    Golems: 59,839 (372,401 offense / 338,283 defense)
    War-Horses: 13,125 (up to 16,336 additional offense)
    Prisoners: 1,150 (4,294 offense)

    Total Modified Offense: 393,031 (157.21 per Acre)
    Practical (100% elites): 393,031 (157.21 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 360,954 (144.38 per Acre)
    Practical (0% elites): 15,525 (6.21 per Acre)

    Thieves: 5,833 (2.33 per Acre / 90% Stealth)
    Wizards: 2,511 (1.00 per Acre / 84% Mana)

    Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
    Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 11,926 (4.77 / Acre)
    Estimated Thieves Number: 4,770 (1.91 per Acre)
    Estimated Wizards Number: 1,789 (0.72 per Acre)

    ** Networth Table: **
    Total Networth: 486,029gc (194.41 per Acre)
    Golems: 269,276gc (55%) - [4.5gc]
    Land (90% built): 127,500gc (26%) - [15+40gc]
    Thieves: 23,332gc (5%) - [4gc]
    Peasants: 20,227gc (4%) - [1gc]
    Science (estimated): 14,327gc (3%) - [1/92gc]
    Pikemen: 10,985gc (2%) - [5gc]
    Wizards: 10,044gc (2%) - [4gc]
    War Horses: 7,875gc (2%) - [0.6gc]
    Money: 2,464gc (1%) - [1/1000gc]

    Buildings: 1,394gc to build, 975gc to raze
    Away bonus: 101,135gc (12h) / 303,405gc (20h)

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    The Province of Angry Peasents (##:##)
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    Server: Genesis #19
    Utopian Date: June 2nd, YR14
    RL Date: March 31st, 2009 (1:00 GMT)
    Origin: Unformatted (1st hand)

    Ruler Name: Baron Pruritus the Sorcerer
    Personality & Race: The Mystic, Human
    Land: 2,766 Acres
    Money: 4,035,932gc (72,891gc daily income)
    Food: 546,015 bushels
    Runes: 139,688 runes
    Population: 77,941 citizens (28.18 per Acre)
    Peasants: 19,936 (85% Building Efficiency)
    Trade Balance: -1,748,232gc (0% tax rate)

    ME+Stance (no spells): 123.93% off. / 115.09% def.
    Soldiers: 2,547 (71.7% estimated draft rate)
    Swordsmen: 6,367 (39,453 offense)
    Archers: 27,149 (187,478 defense)
    Knights: 14,179 (105,432 offense / 48,957 defense)
    War-Horses: 0
    Prisoners: 0

    Total Modified Offense: 148,041 (53.52 per Acre)
    Practical (100% elites): 148,041 (53.52 per Acre)
    Total Modified Defense: 239,366 (86.54 per Acre)
    Practical (0% elites): 190,409 (68.84 per Acre)

    Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 14,114 (5.10 / Acre)
    Estimated Thieves Number: 5,646 (2.04 per Acre)
    Estimated Wizards Number: 2,117 (0.77 per Acre)

    Province was hit a couple of times recently!

    ** Networth Table: **
    Total Networth: 488,117gc (176.47 per Acre)
    Archers: 162,894gc (33%) - [6gc]
    Land (90% built): 141,066gc (29%) - [15+40gc]
    Knights: 74,440gc (15%) - [5.25gc]
    Thieves+Wizards+Science (est.): 56,457gc (12%)
    Swordsmen: 25,468gc (5%) - [4gc]
    Peasants: 19,936gc (4%) - [1gc]
    Money: 4,036gc (1%) - [1/1000gc]
    Soldiers: 3,820gc (1%) - [1.5gc]

    ** Thievery Advisor: **
    (For more accurate results, use the Thievery Calc.)
    Money: 8,579 thieves to steal up to 334,579gc
    Food: 2,276 thieves to steal up to 204,756 bushels
    Runes: 2,329 thieves to steal up to 36,668 runes
    Peasants: 4,871 thieves to kidnap up to 369 peasants
    Peasants in War: 22,715 thieves for 797 peasants
    Soldiers: 382 thieves to kill up to 382 soldiers
    Arson: 27,500 thieves to burn up to 110 homes

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    LOL at both provs!

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    This is a kingdom page of the province I attacked. One can see the aftermath.

    Oops Did We Do That (##:##) Kingdom Analysis
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    ** Statistics **
    Provinces in Kingdom: 7
    Total Land: 19,924 Acres (Average: 2,846 Acres)
    Total Networth: 3,570,658gc (Average: 510,094gc)
    Average Networth per Acre: 179.21gc
    Dragon Cost: 6,248,652gc
    Dragon Send Range: 2,856,526gc - 4,463,323gc

    ** Relations **
    Attitude towards/from (##:##): None
    Stance: Normal (no bonuses)
    War History: 7 Wars, 6 Wins (86%)

    ** Races **
    Human: 3 (43%) *
    Dark Elf: 2 (29%)
    Elf: 1 (14%)
    Dwarf: 1 (14%)

    ** Land **
    1. I am not a crook [HU] - 3,906 Acres (19.6%)
    2. Oops Did I Do That [DE] - 3,872 Acres (19.4%)
    3. Wanderlust [EL] - 3,787 Acres (19%)
    4. BlackLight [DW] - 2,483 Acres (12.5%)
    5. Angry Peasents [HU] - 2,450 Acres (12.3%) *
    6. Dusk and Her Embrace [DE] - 2,021 Acres (10.1%)
    7. Sitapea [HU] - 1,405 Acres (7.1%)

    ** Networth **
    1. Wanderlust [EL] - 711,900gc (19.9%)
    2. Oops Did I Do That [DE] - 707,858gc (19.8%)
    3. I am not a crook [HU] - 674,168gc (18.9%)
    4. Angry Peasents [HU] - 456,767gc (12.8%) *
    5. BlackLight [DW] - 425,037gc (11.9%)
    6. Dusk and Her Embrace [DE] - 362,591gc (10.2%)
    7. Sitapea [HU] - 232,337gc (6.5%)

    ** Networth per Acre **
    1. Wanderlust [EL] - 187.99gc
    2. Angry Peasents [HU] - 186.44gc
    3. Oops Did I Do That [DE] - 182.81gc
    4. Dusk and Her Embrace [DE] - 179.41gc
    5. I am not a crook [HU] - 172.6gc
    6. BlackLight [DW] - 171.18gc
    7. Sitapea [HU] - 165.36gc

    ** Ranks **
    1. Oops Did I Do That [DE] - King
    2. Wanderlust [EL] - Viscount
    3. Dusk and Her Embrace [DE] - Baron
    3. I am not a crook [HU] - Baron
    3. Angry Peasents [HU] - Baron *
    6. BlackLight [DW] - Lord
    6. Sitapea [HU] - Lord

    ** Unsorted **
    1. BlackLight [DW - 2,483 - 425K - 3]
    2. Oops Did I Do That [DE - 3,872 - 707K - K]
    3. Dusk and Her Embrace [DE - 2,021 - 362K - 4]
    4. I am not a crook [HU - 3,906 - 674K - 4]
    5. Angry Peasents [HU - 2,450 - 456K - 4] *
    6. Wanderlust [EL - 3,787 - 711K - 5]
    7. Sitapea [HU - 1,405 - 232K - 3]


    Your forces arrive at Angry Peasents (##:##), and battle begins quickly...

    A tough battle took place, but we have managed a victory!
    Your army has taken 316 new acres! 175 buildings survived and can be refitted to fit our needs. We also gained 1276 specialist training credits. Taking full control of your new land will take 12.42 days. Your new land will be available on June 15th, YR14.

    1327 peasants settled on your new lands.

    We lost 2094 Golems and 884 War Horses in this battle. Our forces will be again available on June 15th, YR14.
    We killed about 1190 enemy troops. We also imprisoned 1025 additional troops in our Dungeons.

    Oh I over sent by 4% and this province does not have enough attack power to attack me back. He stared out with more land, networth, and more honor. Now all he has is more honor. I wonder how a province that can be broken so easily have so much honor?

    Also keep in mind that the kingdom I am in is in fortified stance.
    Last edited by vines; 31-03-2009 at 01:19.

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