Next age changes

[raion]

Any minds and thoughts about next age changes? Personally I think the setup for current age is just nice especially no attacking time penalty during war.

still... I'm sure there's a lot of change that need to be mend... how about giving Dark Elf no rune cost and access to fort?

:-)

[Avenger]

There are some good suggestions ... in the suggestions forum!
But I do agree DE blows. Orc kinda' sucks too because plague>-50% wages imo.

[VT2]

Zero changes.
Zero 'balancing.'
Zero 'crazy ideas.'

Zero delay.
Just get summer over and done with.

[Ratty]

Make some wild changes!

Omac has never seen a dynamic Utopia and should learn what people found appealing. How else can they know how to attract new people and what better age could it be than a shortie extra? :)

Better and worse ideas just to get the thought through:
* uncapped sci
* uncapped honor
* double-triple buildings (% * 1 to % * 2 or even % * 3)

[tzar]

Zero changes.
Zero 'balancing.'
Zero 'crazy ideas.'

Zero delay.
Just get summer over and done with.

Well, if you want that, why not just extend the age?

[Mourhelm]

Well, if you want that, why not just extend the age?

Because people voted for the age to end?!

But on topic, maybe get OMAC to use some old age?

[tzar]

Because people voted for the age to end?!

Well... yeah, and with each new age, there are changes. Or is that not how it's supposed to work?

Just ending the age without making any changes seems pointless

Especially when there are changes that need to be made

[Ratty]

But on topic, maybe get OMAC to use some old age?

If possible ages 11-15 would be awsome! Or before hodf age-10 when there were boats, 5-9 somewhere? If they do this, they shouldn't tell which age, esp not <=10, because then people look in hall of fame and see what loophole to exploit ;P

[Mourhelm]

Well... yeah, and with each new age, there are changes. Or is that not how it's supposed to work?

Just ending the age without making any changes seems pointless

Especially when there are changes that need to be made

Don't get me wrong, I do expect to see changes.

@Ratty - I was thinking more in the lines of an age that requires small amount of coding. Getting boats back is way too much work.

[HumanoidTyphoon]

* uncapped honor

You mean like the age HODF took over the world? =)

[HumanoidTyphoon]

If possible ages 11-15 would be awsome! Or before hodf age-10 when there were boats, 5-9 somewhere? If they do this, they shouldn't tell which age, esp not <=10, because then people look in hall of fame and see what loophole to exploit ;P

Boats, I remember those. big problem when they got sunk so easily though =\

[SillyPanda]

@ Mourhelm

Recapturing lost ages has been attempted before (only once i believe), and the predictability throughout the age was beyond monotonous.

@ All

One of the most simple changes possible that would vastly change game-play across the board is to allow buildings to count for what they should be (ie. instead of having a building do something at the rate of 1.5% then at 30% you only get 33%... yeah that craziness). One of the things that made this game great was the potential for wild-card building strategies ruling the age in the face of "forum approved" strategies; of which, we mostly no longer have, due to diminishing returns on building effectiveness at higher percentages. Newer players, mostly, don't understand these calculations, and frustrated when 'their cool idea' won't work.

Beyond that, let us know what the age changes are going to be.... PRE age change. It's not as if OMAC didn't have ample time to put at least that much together.

[Ratty]

Mourhelm->I realize that. I was thinking in case they have code saved... *backups?*

HT->Yes age 10 and also before that I believe. But I don't specifically want that, it's more example of a dynamic game but yes that's extreme ;P And I didn't play boats myself - I just know they were derely missed :)

SP->I agree, but the diminishing stuff is only part of dynamics problem. If they raised the X in %*X enough it would compensate. Like if we there were schools %*6 dim instead of the earlier %*4 nodim. But now it's %*2 dim so it doesn't matter much what you build... This is a problem in Utopia because only the most active kd (alliance?) wins and many others quit because they can't compete even if they are better.

[Dolgil]

Far as I know, Mehul just adjusted the current code and commented out the useless, no longer needed code or deleted it outright. As such, there is no backup saying age 10 or something like that.

[Mourhelm]

Mourhelm->I realize that. I was thinking in case they have code saved... *backups?*

I remember reading somewhere, probably one of Mehul's interviews, that he never saved anything. Not the reasoning for why he made the changes he made and not backups of the code nor the old guides.

Recapturing lost ages has been attempted before (only once i believe), and the predictability throughout the age was beyond monotonous.

Reproducing an age from the past is practically impossible. However, taking the way buildings and races were setup is possible as some of the guides are were saved by the community. With all the other changes that were made the age will not be exactly the same and will not be as predictable.