i am stuck in Development and i need your help

[Bijo]

i am stuck in Development ..... i have a problem with cb+som and i dont know what to do about it.....

angel have a couple of bugs in cb+som so i cant use what angel is using...

ok you wanto know what i mean?

lets say you did cb and it says enemy have 6000 elites
and then you did som and it says enemy have 2400 elites home and elites 2400 out (only 1 army)

now lets says the real numbers are 3000 elites home and 3000 elites out
(the som can be a real som because 3000*0.8=2400 and 0.8 is in the range -/+25%)

now angel will show:
===============

Home: 3,692, Away: 2,308
Home: 3,333, Away: 2,667
Home: 3,000, Away: 3,000
Home: 2,667, Away: 3,333
Home: 2,308, Away: 3,692

but the max at home is 2400*1.25 = 3000 so you are over sending so thats no good right? :(

now for another way is to simply use:
elitesathome*1.25 and compare it to the one in the cb

i am thinking of combing the two methods
so like angel only to limit it to the right range so it will show:

Home: 3,000, Away: 3,000
Home: 2,667, Away: 3,333
Home: 2,308, Away: 3,692

which is the right way to do it....

but i also would like to have a way that will always show only one result
and not 5 lines or 3 lines like the above

if anyone have any idea i would realy like to hear it

[geln0r]

i *think* there is a flaw in your thinking when you say:

but the max at home is 2400*1.25 = 3000 so you are over sending so thats no good right? :(

the +/- 25% refers to whats shown in the som, so the som could show any value between

3000*0.75=2250
and
3000*1.25=3750

so if you wanted the max possible number of elites at home wouldnt you have to calc:

(number in som)/0.75*1.25=(number in som)*1.666667

in this case, that would be a max of 2400*1.66667=4000

[Bijo]

i *think* there is a flaw in your thinking when you say:

but the max at home is 2400*1.25 = 3000 so you are over sending so thats no good right? :(

the +/- 25% refers to whats shown in the som, so the som could show any value between

3000*0.75=2250
and
3000*1.25=3750

so if you wanted the max possible number of elites at home wouldnt you have to calc:

(number in som)/0.75*1.25=(number in som)*1.666667

in this case, that would be a max of 2400*1.66667=4000

hmmmm you are right i just wrote it to fast without checking it first
but the point of this thread is to find a way with only one result

i have an idea about using the DME from the cb so that i will have only one result and not 5 or 3 like the above

i will simply reask again then....

anyone have a way or idea how to find the real def of the enemy using a cb+som and without oversending above som+som????

(i hope its more clear now)

[VT2]

If you were doing research, you'd know the answer to the questios you were asking.
Long, long before your time, several others already figured it all out, and that's why we have these handy SoM-translators.

[Bijo]

If you were doing research, you'd know the answer to the questios you were asking.
Long, long before your time, several others already figured it all out, and that's why we have these handy SoM-translators.

Obviously, you're lazy - alternatively incompetent.
What does this piece of waste have to do with Utopia and strategy, anyway? You have your own forum to spam on.

wow you wrote something realy stupid now lol why?
i know how cb+som is working i know how som+som is working i am simply asked for a better way for cb+som to work if its possible thats all

no stop posting at my thread vt2 and go away
i dont wanto read your post i want other ppl's ideas/thoughts

now by the post you just made i can say one of two things:
1. you didnt even check what i am building or...
2. you are just wanto flame like a little kid without even read the thread you are posting your "great" flame

[VT2]

Again, I ignore your posts, just so I can reply to you.
This is has nothing at all to do with 'strategy' or the game itself - thus, you've been marked by the mods, and if they don't take action, I'm going to claim they refuse to uphold their own rules - illegal to advertize, stay on topic, use strategy for strategy, general for general, etc - for the simple reason that I was the one who turned you in.

Now go away.

[Bijo]

Again, I ignore your posts, just so I can reply to you.
This is has nothing at all to do with 'strategy' or the game itself - thus, you've been marked by the mods, and if they don't take action, I'm going to claim they refuse to uphold their own rules - illegal to advertize, stay on topic, use strategy for strategy, general for general, etc - for the simple reason that I was the one who turned you in.

Now go away.

feel free to do what ever you want lol

all i am doing is for this game and its was a hard work and i think they know it :)
i didnt do nothing wrong and my goal is only to help ppl (unlike you to spam and flame ^^) i am posting here on 'strategy talk' because i dont have anywhere else to post this there and i am allowed to ask for help so stfu

and as for advertizing its only 3 links and its for ppl 3 know that there is 3 new sites that they can use (plus i am not the only one) and its for non profitable purposes meaning i am not gaining any money what so ever it is all for free to help ppl

NOW GO AWAY!

[Palem]

I do agree that your formatting threads are in the wrong forum as this has nothing to do with Strategy.

[Ezzerland]

This likely belongs in utopia talk. As for a better way, try taking more than the basic factors into account. DME/OME might help, see if you can figure a way to add it up.

[Bijo]

This likely belongs in utopia talk. As for a better way, try taking more than the basic factors into account. DME/OME might help, see if you can figure a way to add it up.

will do Ezzerland tnx

[Cortez The Killer]

have a possible defence range in the som, from minimum potential to maximum, if somebodys willing to send the max or above shown, they will obviously break, but it may be an oversend

[Ezzerland]

have a possible defence range in the som, from minimum potential to maximum, if somebodys willing to send the max or above shown, they will obviously break, but it may be an oversend

That's a pretty good solution too, tbh.

[Bijo]

ok look at this geln0r

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6639/bug.jpg

lets says the numbers are
6000 elites from cb
1000 elites home from som
5000 elites out from som

now angel will show you:
===================

Home: 1,370, Away: 4,630
Home: 1,000, Away: 5,000

1370 is out of range it should not be in the list its make you oversend

1000/1.25=800
1000/0.75=1333

or am i wrong about that as well?!


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i am using a dif code for that look:

var List1=new Array();
var List2=new Array();

function CB_SOM(Home,Out,Real){

count=0;

for (i=-25; i<=25; i++) for (j=-25; j<=25; j++)

if ( Math.round(Home/(1+i/100))+Math.round(Out/(1+j/100)) == Real ) {

List1[List1.length] = Math.round(Home/(1+i/100));
List2[List2.length] = Math.round(Out/(1+j/100));

}

}

much simpler no?

[geln0r]

1370 is out of range it should not be in the list its make you oversend

1000/1.25=800
1000/0.75=1333

or am i wrong about that as well?!

I think you should calculate the range

1000*0.75=750 instead of 1000/1.25=800 and

1000*1.25=1250 instead of 1000/0.75=1333

either way, 1370 is out of range so angel looks like its bugged (mind you, its very early in the morning, so my thinking may be off).
Your calculation looks neat, although im more of a math whiz than a programming whiz ;)

btw, i've been looking at DME/OME a bit, trying to figure something out, ill PM you my calculations later if you want.

[Bijo]

I think you should calculate the range

1000*0.75=750 instead of 1000/1.25=800 and

1000*1.25=1250 instead of 1000/0.75=1333

either way, 1370 is out of range so angel looks like its bugged (mind you, its very early in the morning, so my thinking may be off).
Your calculation looks neat, although im more of a math whiz than a programming whiz ;)

btw, i've been looking at DME/OME a bit, trying to figure something out, ill PM you my calculations later if you want.

if 1000 was from the som and not the real number of units at home then you should use:

1000/1.25=800
1000/0.75=1333

you wanto find out the real numbers that the som will give you the "fake" number
and if you have an idea you are more then welcome to pm me :)