Absalom Gangbang

[Darklove]

Well seems something of some interest has happened. Seems Absalom has started on a gang bang of fratzias biggest province with the help of TF.
The reasoning behind this was hard to find tho. But a post regarding it was picked up before any release to the normal utopians.
Seems absalom are upset that the gang bang and then explore thing was used and they now find they as a thing people should not do. After they them self has been doing this for so many ages.
It was as well a incident where a big gnome ambushed a hit that sanctuary did with 2 razes following up on that from 2 other kds. And it seems warsong (claiming to be unaware of this) waved sanctuary shortly after.
So as a response Absalom are now together with TF razing fraztias top pprovince witch was one of those razing sanctuary.
Sanctuary has this age used some exploits of their own being in fake wars to grow their provinces big safely

As far as TF goes they have no interest or reasons to post any reasons for helping to raze one province. So one can just assume that they are mindless followers of absalom

[MorbidAngel]

They can do whatever they want..

[Skieve]

DL, we all know Abs does nothing but lie,lie and lie some more... We also know they like to twist facts around to suit thier own pathetic versions of the truth... Anyone who think that Abs is *cough* honorable , are sadly mistaken... They have been misguided and brainwashed... When abs gets into a position where they have to set up a truce they emediatly start of thinking of wAAys to break it and spin it so they don't seem like the bad guy.. which ofc if anyone has half a brain wouldn't believe them.. Bottom line is Abs IS the scum of utopia...

[gergnub]

yes, there are over a hundred mindless scumbags playing in those evil evil ABS kingdoms! If they only knew how sad their lives are!

[Nuriho]

And it seems warsong (claiming to be unaware of this) waved sanctuary shortly after.

let it be known: warsong is a kingdom that waves kingdoms in hopes for wars so they can sing in glory.

you can have your province vs province struggles and talk about them, but warsong is a kingdom, not a province. treat us as such.

the 4 hits on a province because he hit another province have no correlation to a kingdom waving a kingdom.

also: qq elsewhere

[_greenie]

ABS lies
COV lied
ex-cov kd's lie
ABS haters lie

everyone lies and twists words to suit themselves
get over it

btw, how is it wrong of ABS to gang up on people when plenty of people have applauded others for ganging up on ABS?

[gergnub]

greenie, its always right when its done to ABS and not by ABS. you should know that :)

[Skieve]

it's always right when they have been so wrong for so many ages...

[DHaran]

When abs gets into a position where they have to set up a truce they emediatly start of thinking of wAAys to break it and spin it so they don't seem like the bad guy.. which ofc if anyone has half a brain wouldn't believe them.. Bottom line is Abs IS the scum of utopia...

Haha, if you think that's true you need to get out more. At least they find ways out of deals instead of just straight up ignoring and breaking them like the REAL scum kingdoms of Utopia.

[jdorje]

From our press release:

Absalom is taking alliance action against the province of vacca maximus (), run by Hesus.

Background:

At the start of the age, vacca maximus () received friendly plunders to achieve 15% tax-cap to explore up out of range of other provinces. We feel that this tactic violates the "Spirit of the Rules" and "Fair & Honorable Play" sections of the utopia code. Most specifically, "Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion." It is well known that the existence of capped tax resulting from gang bang protection is intended to help provinces who were banged down recover. Having allies assist you to artificially induce this tax cap for the purpose of massively feeding up a giant province is an intentional manipulation of this game quirk. Additionally, it is a serious game play issue since this abuse eliminates the ability for others to compete fairly without also resorting to such abuse.

While it is not yet clear what stance Jolt/OMAC will take with such abuse, the game's creator made his stance clear both in the code and with previous action, such as the mass deletion of Fratzia for abuse of another quirk in the game (the ability for the whole kingdom to enter vacation mode during a war by all setting the vacation mode at the same time.) OMAC has stated that using it for large provinces is not intended behavior which will be fixed.

Recent events:

Primus () in Sanctuary was viewed to be closing in to range of vacca maximus (), and Hesus then arranged a gangbang on him to allow their province to become safe, allowing him to raze the large provinces without risk the following day. Several of hesus' allied kingdoms had notice deals with Sanctuary which had the potential to interfere in Hesus' plan to have multiple kingdoms all hit Primus (). The kingdoms with notice deals with Sanctuary all gave simultaneous notice of ending the cf's. The kingdom of () was one of the kingdoms serving Sanctuary 24h notice to end their cf. When the cf notice period had expired, Primus () hit Big Gnomes (). Big Gnomes () ambushed the hit, with Whispers () razing Primus () from their fakewar and vacca maximus () also razing Primus () within the hour; all three of the provinces engaged in the gangbang were fed up using the gbp method above.

While the ethics of hitting cow provinces by multiple kingdoms are not well agreed on by those involved, preemptive 4-on-1 situations are not acceptable to us and coordinated raze attacks cannot be defended by calling them "randoms".

For the above reasons and because Fratzia has made it clear that razes on our kingdoms and cows will continue for the rest of the age, we are responding in kind with coordinated action on Hesus to negate this fed province. While we believe that every alliance has a responsibility to enforce fair play among their members, we wish to be clear that these actions are limited to Hesus and we hope that his allies do not support his actions and we are able to resume fair 1v1 play.

[Yoda]

\At the start of the age, vacca maximus () received friendly plunders to achieve 15% tax-cap to explore up out of range of other provinces. We feel that this tactic violates the "Spirit of the Rules" and "Fair & Honorable Play" sections of the utopia code. Most specifically, "Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion." It is well known that the existence of capped tax resulting from gang bang protection is intended to help provinces who were banged down recover. Having allies assist you to artificially induce this tax cap for the purpose of massively feeding up a giant province is an intentional manipulation of this game quirk. Additionally, it is a serious game play issue since this abuse eliminates the ability for others to compete fairly without also resorting to such abuse.

that's really great abs. I guess every tactic is legitimate when you guys use it, while others who tries to employ the same thing will get a full wave by 10 different kingdoms.

one example of many: you guys feed up provinces with soldiers EoA to boost kd networth, which is artificially inflating networth and eliminating "the ability for others to compete fairly without also resorting to such abuse." I feel that all of Abs should be deleted because of this.

Just admit you guys are huge douches and please stop your feeble attempts to justify your despicable actions.

[AquaSeaFoam]

Hesus organized his allies to do coordinated razes against the Sanctuary cow. Now we have organized coordinated razes on his province.

People who want more details on what provoked this can find them elsewhere well enough.

[DHaran]

Nobody ever says a thing about the same tactics used against Abs, it's quit comical how hypocritical people are.

And if you people want to accuse Abs of GBP'ing banks, then get the proof, organize a gang bang, then issue a press release. (rofl @ press releases)

lol this game is going straight down the drain. It's all lame on all sides.

[stoffi]

ABS lies
COV lied
ex-cov kd's lie
ABS haters lie

everyone lies and twists words to suit themselves
get over it

btw, how is it wrong of ABS to gang up on people when plenty of people have applauded others for ganging up on ABS?

Greeney, HaLL does not lie. :)

[Bishop]

no locs please