Are looking like this:
--- Avians ---
+75% Birth Rates
+5% OME
-25% Attack Time
+20% Military Losses in Combat
No Stables
No Specialist Credits from Combat
Spells: Clearsight, Townwatch
7/3 Elite - $800, 5.75 NW
]Modified stats
--- Avians ---
+75% Birth Rates
-25% Attack Time
Immune to Ambush
+20% Military Losses in Combat
No Stables
Spells: Clearsight, Townwatch
7/3 Elite - $800, 5.75 NW
(Avians will not be able to steal horses)
Last edited by Lydias; 19-10-2009 at 18:52. Reason: To include Brians latest stats in red
That's final for the new age?
Still open for discussion Luc, B&S want to lock these in soon though so any concerns please raise them now :)
townwatch is cool, explains why they have +BR, or gives it a use.
7 value elite is a good trade off for losseing stables.
800$ elites with +20 losses and no spec credits, is a strong penality, but -25% att time +5% ome is a good bonus.
loseing +1 def. spec value, kinda sucks, esp if it came at the cost of getting +5% ome. The 6 value def. spec seems like a better bonus than the 5% ome.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling,
but in rising every time we fall.
+specs are an existing bonus, its better it remains specific to Human. I kind of like it, it trades heavy losses for fast attacking, a nice hit and run race.
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they can steal horses?
shhhhh!!!!Originally Posted by noseblood
hehe j/k, might wanna take that op from Avians :P
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Seems I'll be running one of the three kings once more.
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Step one: replace everything that works.
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Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
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Well, now they're officially screwed. If they're getting the no stables, they NEED an 8 pt. elite just to be as space efficient as a normal attacker. +5% OME is not nearly enough to counter. Sure they have speed, they don't have any lasting power or any economy in war.
I just can not play Avians like that, and I was really hoping to find a reason to. Thanks a lot...
I still feel they are a little weak. Please either give them fana, change it from ome to me, or make it 10 ome.
Military-wise, they just can't compete. Add in the +losses and no spec creds...
And yes, prevent the steal + use horses loophole please.
I do agree tho that the creds/losses is too much of a penalty to make it really playable as anything but hit and run, and even then you need to know what you're doing.
How about we lose the losses penalty, and add a smaller penalty or alter one of the bonuses. Ideas?
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Why is avian the only race with 3 negative penalties?? Every other race has 2, I see no need for avian to be the lone race with 3 negatives, and removing any 1 of its current 3 would make it more fairly balanced.
No unit credits has never worked for any race, no matter the bonuses it's been given.
Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.
Step one: replace everything that works.
Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
Step four: thank you for your patience.
Then again if they drop one of these penalties I can see it being a lame Avian-fest age much like the ****ty UD age. Meh, I'm getting more dissatisfied the more I look at it.
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lol, my elite/stables suggestion actually got implemented.
Tho I must say, avians kinda suck overall.
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