If you're keeping their elites at 7pt WITH no stables, I wouldn't pay more than $500 for that weakling. And if I have to, obviously I wouldn't play them.
Though stealing war horses sounds nice right about now.
If you're keeping their elites at 7pt WITH no stables, I wouldn't pay more than $500 for that weakling. And if I have to, obviously I wouldn't play them.
Though stealing war horses sounds nice right about now.
ok, let's make it 850, lose the credits and 5% losses ^^
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I lol'ed at ppl whining about the losses. You need 10% extra hospitals to compensate, which isn't hard to do. Then you claim they get higher losses because they hit more often? Yes, hitting faster means you lose your army faster. However, it also means you DO damage faster as well. You seem to be pretending that they end up with ONLY more losses because they're fast, which is quite dumb. Their problem is related to their economy, not their losses. They need to be able to retrain if they're gonna be anything but a hit and run race.
The lack of spec credits is the problem with the race as I see it. They don't need to have the same army strength as orc, they just need to be more durable than they are now.
Please stop suggesting to make them another version of Orc
Last edited by Luc; 19-10-2009 at 18:40.
DE (5/6) - 900
Dwarf (7/4) - 900
Orc (8/2) - 800
Humans (6/3) - 750
Elves (6/4) - 700
Gnomes (5/4) - meh
Balancing After Avian Elites
DE (5/6) - 900
Dwarf (7/4) - 900
Orc (8/2) - 800
Avian (7/3) - 750 <<<<<<
Humans (6/3) - 700 <<<<<
Elves (6/4) - 700
Gnomes (5/4) - meh
Dunno where to stick elves, they shouldnt get a 650 elite for 6/4. even if they dont have tog, i think. do they have QF in this version?
Hi all,
Thanks for the feedback so far. One thing I forgot to list was Avians can't be ambushed.
From the suggestions so far, I like:
Drop the +5% OME.
Drop the No Specialists Credits penalty.
So, let me modify the proposal and don't be shy in telling me what you think :-)
--- Avians ---
+75% Birth Rates
-25% Attack Time
Immune to Ambush
+20% Military Losses in Combat
No Stables
Spells: Clearsight, Townwatch
7/3 Elite - $800, 5.75 NW
(Avians will not be able to steal horses)
Last edited by Brian_; 19-10-2009 at 18:50.
ugh you just gave it a huge boost AND dropped a penalty....
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oh gosh, it's a warrior race :D How about, -100% ambush gains ? :P
i would like to ambush my avian buddies for their sweet losses
Not as much of a boost if you're playing at the ghetto level. No on ambushes down there anyway.
I'm still not paying $800 bucks for a crappy 7/3 elite with no stables...
meh, humans have to pay 750 for a 6/3 WITH stables. I say 10% extra space is a fair price. Granted, humans have 0/6 but that's why they lost the spec credit penalty right?
Well, and at the same time, you made the elites even weaker, from 7.35 down to 7. If you insist on a 7pt elite, at least it should be cheaper... maybe $600
Quite a bit of a boost there Brian... maybe keep the +5% OME and only one bonus, I mean - drop the credits OR add no ambush.
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600 gc for a 7/3 ? lmao?
well.. that's their bonus, suck it up
Crisco you are wasting your time on this one, some people you just can't explain things to.
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