Meteor Showers cast from target FW ?

[protector]

So we are Hostile towards some scrubs who felt the need to retal from fake war, and I suddenly get METEOR SHOWERS cast on me???

What is this bull****. They are in FAKE WAR, I cannot kill their wizards nor landlust those idiots, yet I get a freaking Meteor on me. We have NO other relations with anyone.

Fix please.

[chid]

Relax.
If they haven't retaled enough(any) hits then I guess you can't use those hostile spells, :>, for the record, it's not 'a freaking meteor' but rather a 'a whole ****ing overpowered ***** of a meteor shower'

[Spliff]

Relax.
If they haven't retaled enough(any) hits then I guess you can't use those hostile spells, :>, for the record, it's not 'a freaking meteor' but rather a 'a whole ****ing overpowered ***** of a meteor shower'

Agrees 100% with a big LMFAO!

[_greenie]

you'll find you are hostile/unfriendly to them, but they arent unfriendly/hostile to you

welcome to FW =)

always been like that

[Luth]

yup, gotta deal with it

[protector]

No, you don't get it. (But I guess I wasn't clear in my main post either due to being angry ;p)

We: Hostile vs them
They: Hostile vs us
They: In fakewar with another scrub kd.

Their fakewar should negate the option to have relations. Otherwise you could just wave kingdoms from FW, hope they retal and then LL their acres off. Thats bull****.

[Deana]

http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=604117

Guess i can add to that, you have never been able to op people from fake war before this age (unless it was before like 3 years ago when i wouldnt have had opportunity to notice) But, currently being a mage most of the time in a kingdom that has is opponents go into fw most of the freaking time, you could not do hostile ops on them--

You also could not do hostile ops on a kingdom from a fake war, i know cause again i was a mystic and we were waved 2 minutes oow by a bunch of humans, i was chained to **** in the war and had like 32 mod wpa, people insisted that i would be able to land lust if we went into fake war. They continued to wave us into fw, i could not land lust them - i had the option, but after click the button, nothing would happen -- after we came out of fake war, we still had ops on them and i ms'd them all for many days until they had to go into their own fake war to make it stop (both sides were holding)

[protector]

Maybe specific spells are bugged then. I do know that I've been getting meteors, and the opposite kingdom is happily abusing this bug, congrats.
Meteor Showers should be made war-only just like Propaganda (along with a few other spells/ops). Otherwise mystic has a clear advantage over rogue

I think the way it currently works/bugs is:
If your own kingdom is in (fake) war, and another kingdom gives relations to you, your own kingdom can use (some) ops against them. They can't, because being at war cancels your relations.

It's a stupid bug that needs urgent fixing...

[protector]

Kicking this back up - can we please get some response on this ?

[WolfDGrey]

always been like that

Nope, greenie, WAR should override ALL relations. Not allways been like that.

It's a (known) bug wich leaves room for plenty abuse and should be corrected.

[_greenie]

Nope, greenie, WAR should override ALL relations. Not allways been like that.

It's a (known) bug wich leaves room for plenty abuse and should be corrected.

am 99% sure you've always been able to cast spells FROM FW but not into
whether or not you SHOULD be able to is another matter, but im 99% sure, even on old code, you could still op/LL/MS from war, assuming other party wasnt in a FW themselves

[protector]

am 99% sure you've always been able to cast spells FROM FW but not into
whether or not you SHOULD be able to is another matter, but im 99% sure, even on old code, you could still op/LL/MS from war, assuming other party wasnt in a FW themselves

No you could not. You DID have the spells visible in your spellbook when selecting the kingdom with relations against you, but when you tried to cast them you'd get an error message.

So, where is the response from our admins/devs ??
Punish the ones abusing the bug, and refund my lost troops, okay?

[coss]

Punish the ones abusing the bug, and refund my lost troops, okay?

Poor prot:) Does it hurt so much? and FYI: We are not abusing a bug we are just exploiting the game mechanisms. Yet the devs didn;t say it's a bug or not. I remember like 5-6 ages ago on old code it was possible to even NS with good succes rate if you had enough TPA. No worry, it won't hurt you much anymore cause we come out to kick your butt.

PS: speaking for ZZ about punishment and refund for your kd ... why ask B&S when you can simply steal one of your farms?

[_greenie]

Poor prot:) Does it hurt so much? and FYI: We are not abusing a bug we are just exploiting the game mechanisms. Yet the devs didn;t say it's a bug or not. I remember like 5-6 ages ago on old code it was possible to even NS with good succes rate if you had enough TPA. No worry, it won't hurt you much anymore cause we come out to kick your butt.

PS: speaking for ZZ about punishment and refund for your kd ... why ask B&S when you can simply steal one of your farms?

THANK YOU....

i knew it was possible to op FROM war, but not INTO war...

[Luth]

agree. war has always overridden all other relations, including outside of war. needs to be fixed as it is highly abusable