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Thread: Oil Spill in the Gulf

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    Oil Spill in the Gulf

    This oil spill out in the gulf isn't looking to good. Looks like it might catch into the gulf stream and head up the east coastline. Whats everyone think the effects will be? And, How long will they last?

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    WTF is the deal with the poll? Why would anyone who has 1/2 a brain think Obama has any blame? Obama can't do a damn thing about it. It's not like there a thousands of homeless people needing assistance... It's a big Oil leak in the ocean.

    It was George Bush Sr. that limited the liability of the Oil Companies to $75 million. A pittance to the big oil bank roll...

    Can anyone tell me why a British owned company is drilling for Oil in the Gulf Coast?

    If anyone is to blame it is the Republican stance of "Drill baby Drill". The same idiots that don't know that drilling for oil on US soil does nothing for the people of the US. The Oil is sold on the 'open market' just like all oil is. We get no benefit from it. Period. End of Story.

    It's also the 'less regulation' people that allowed these companies to get away with not installing a robotic shut off like they have to do in Europe.

    Of course then you have Dick Cheney's Haliburton (that has a massive track record of all kinds of dirty dealings) that is apparently the cause of the mess to begin with.

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    "obama can't do a damn thing about it" what are u kidding the world here? Is he not the president of the united states? that had a huge response to all the earthquakes. The united states had 10000000s of commercials asking americans to donate to these earthquakes. but you havent seen a save the ocean cause or help stop the oil spill spread notion. while this immediately effects the shore lines of america. Is this a democratic issue? A muslim biased issue? or another reason?

    Your overall view was democratic biased. While you also stated the republicans are to blame. Im neutral.

    A better question is, why is anyone drilling in the gulf rather than the northern states of the united states which they claim to have more oil there, than saudi arabia.

    And an overall issue, this problem effects a billion dollar a year business in the fishing/seafood industry. Nobody has mentioned the chain reaction of that. ( i have heard that turtles are dieing??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggityB View Post
    "obama can't do a damn thing about it" what are u kidding the world here? Is he not the president of the united states? that had a huge response to all the earthquakes. The united states had 10000000s of commercials asking americans to donate to these earthquakes. but you havent seen a save the ocean cause or help stop the oil spill spread notion. while this immediately effects the shore lines of america. Is this a democratic issue? A muslim biased issue? or another reason?
    Yes and the US military is involved. What more can Obama do? You tell me. It's not like people are dieing and homeless here. If you think this is ANYTHING like the Katrina disaster then you are mistaken. You want Obama to bring all the fish and Shrimp back to life or something?

    Your overall view was democratic biased. While you also stated the republicans are to blame. Im neutral.
    Then why the Impeach Obama poll? Not very neutral...

    A better question is, why is anyone drilling in the gulf rather than the northern states of the united states which they claim to have more oil there, than saudi arabia.
    It's a land grab by the big oil companies is what it is. They have plenty of oil fields already that they are not drilling in. America is for sale apparently.

    And an overall issue, this problem effects a billion dollar a year business in the fishing/seafood industry. Nobody has mentioned the chain reaction of that. ( i have heard that turtles are dieing??)
    If you haven't heard any of that then your not listening to the right sources.

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    The impeach obama poll is regarding more of his tendencies towards socialism. And some of the adverse effects it is having on the country.

    The oil spill occured, someone is at fault(not the president). The response however is the presidents responsibility. Nevertheless, Now because of the oil spill, the fishing/seafood industry in the gulf is going to take a huge hit. Which will have a ton of other effects on their economy and well being. Will there be any repercussions and/or compensation? People will lose their jobs, companies may go out of business because of another industries doings that normally do not effect the fishing/seafood industry. Most fisherman don't have fall back plans. Meaning in order to keep doing their job they have to relocate.(packing up and starting all over) But all in all, killing off one of our main food sources because of the oil spill is not something to overlook.

    Its not a good situation either way. We can also discuss the fact of health issues down the line for us and the species in the sea.

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    Adverse effects? You mean the Economy improving and the Jobless numbers on the decline? You mean the national debt because we had to (yes ECONOMISTS said we had to) bail out the banks due to 8 years of Republican rule and the stance of less regulations?

    Can you name anything 'Socialist' that Obama has done? You do know the Bank bail-outs were started under Bush right? The Money that dissapeared with no strings attached... The Auto Industry Bail-out? You do know GM paid back the money WITH interest right?

    So that leaves Health Care... which the majority of Americans want. We are the only western nation without a universal health care system.

    BTW: Obama is a MODERATE not a Progressive OR a Socialist.

    Tell me why the tax payer needs to pay for the damage done by the oil spill. BP needs to foot the bill not the Tax payer. Or is socialism only good when you deem it good? Privatize the profit and socialize the losses? Again, it was a REPUBLICAN in George Bush Sr. that limited the liability of the Oil Companies to $75 mil. Better start going after the Republicans instead of Obama...

    You do know the ban on Assault weapons expired under Obama and under Obama you can now legally carry a firearm in a FEDERAL park right?

    I swear, some people just watch too much FOX news for their own good...
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    your a class A pessimist but insane person in denial. if you dont see obamas socialist doings, your negligence is quit apparent. i had to skim through your last post.

    Because your postings are quit radical.

    Your last sentence about "some people just watch too much FOX news...." is focused towards yourself. with your own viewings of whatever you listen to or watch.

    lol its quit funny of your response tho. Your true colors show.

    Repeat the word "republican" some more....and see where that gets you.

    Re-read everything and see how ur focused on 1 thing only. and all of your responses are based with the same response.

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    Seems to me more of an issue of you not being able to come up with anything other than a typical blanket statement that has no factual base? Besides Heath care and the banking problems you got nothing...

    No, I watch Fox News from time to time and the political pundits they have on there preach a whole lot of hate and anger. Were not these same people saying 'Your Anti-American if you speak out against a wartime President during a war' when Bush was in office? A few on Fox boarder on pure sedition. We have the same situation now. Not that I agree or disagree with any of that wartime President stuff. I just know hypocrisy when I see it.

    I don't label myself anything. I voted for Obama yes, I also voted for a Republican Governor in my state. Maybe people need to actually think for themselves instead of having their party think for them.

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    It's big oil cutting corners to make the rich guys richer. That’s what lead to what will surely be recognized as the worst ecological disaster in modern history. How the hell would this be cause for Obama to be impeached?*TUT*
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    Obama administration was going to give BP a safety award if they won I think they were in the running for it. lol

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/30...vention-award/

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    Enough hypocrisy to go around for everyone I think. Its like fighting in the mud everyone is dirty! lol

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    scandalous ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggityB View Post
    The impeach obama poll is regarding more of his tendencies towards socialism. And some of the adverse effects it is having on the country.
    Can you be more specific?

    A tendency toward 'socialism' is not much to debate on.

    You should outline specific policies that you disaprove of and state out why you disaprove of them (beyond the 'it will make us communist' cliche).

    If you can't do that, then you don't have a well founded opinion on the matter and are falling back on dated rethorics.

    your a class A pessimist but insane person in denial. if you dont see obamas socialist doings, your negligence is quit apparent. i had to skim through your last post.

    Because your postings are quit radical.
    Actually, I find not threating people who are sick (uninssured, can't afford to foot the medical bill) even when we have the necessary medical knowledge to make them better to be a pretty radical concept.

    Definitely not part of the Christian teachings that are so prevalent in many parts of the US (even though I'm now an agnostic, I was raised a catholic, you can't fool me on this one mister).

    Christian only when its convenient to our purposes are we?

    It's big oil cutting corners to make the rich guys richer. That’s what lead to what will surely be recognized as the worst ecological disaster in modern history. How the hell would this be cause for Obama to be impeached?*TUT*
    Definitely. All human-made ecological disasters outside of wars are the result of ignorance or greed.

    The reserve of ignorance is growing smaller and smaller with scientific advances which leaves us with the greed.

    What simple lesson we can learn from this?

    Step away from the oil. Find other sources of energy. We have the scientific knowledge necessary to make a lot of breakthroughs in that area, but lack the political will to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magn View Post

    What simple lesson we can learn from this?

    Step away from the oil. Find other sources of energy. We have the scientific knowledge necessary to make a lot of breakthroughs in that area, but lack the political will to do so.
    What other use does oil have beside energy? We have built our current infrastructure based on coal and oil so it will take time to convert over to a new technology. I would say we lack the infrastructure more so than the political will. Windmill? lol , solar? lol, granted on a small scale they do help but not a replacement. Some of our best innovations come just after a big war, then we covert them to civilian use. NO, not saying go to war, silly people! Desperation is the mother of inventions and we are just not desperate yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockie Cantais View Post
    What other use does oil have beside energy? We have built our current infrastructure based on coal and oil so it will take time to convert over to a new technology. I would say we lack the infrastructure more so than the political will. Windmill? lol , solar? lol, granted on a small scale they do help but not a replacement. Some of our best innovations come just after a big war, then we covert them to civilian use. NO, not saying go to war, silly people! Desperation is the mother of inventions and we are just not desperate yet.
    The energy we derive from oils is an insignificant portion of the total amount of energy that is transfered from natural processes.

    The kinetic energy by itself is huge (wind turbines, hydroelectric dams, many others that I'm unfamiliar with or that we have yet to discover).

    Then, there is solar energy (hello, it powers up all life on the planet and 30% of it is reflected back into space...).

    And of course, there are cleaner chemical alternatives (hydrogen power readily comes to mind).

    Atm, we only use a tiny fraction of those powerhouse alternate energy sources, because we did not spend a whole lot of though process poundering how we could milk more out of them.

    Far more research has gone (and is going) into the dirtier sources (natural gaz, pretrolium, coal): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wo..._type_2006.png

    Why is that? Greed? Yes. Corruption? Definitely. Stupidity? Undoubtedly.

    If you want to look at a fine example of how this could be improved, look at this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HQ_supplies_2007.svg

    And thats from hydro-electricity alone! Imagine if we properly harnessed wind and solar energy too...
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