Ambush bug

[lmtdconv92]

Your personal Support ID is 2EE4FCC0

We are in war, he is a human, I am an orc. I just ambushed succesfully an attack that had specs in it. This one has only elites in it.
My calcs

2087 elites x3=6261 dpoints 6261x.08=5008 dpoints

I sent 580 elites x 9 = 5220 + 20 prisoners = 60. 5220+60=5280 opoints sent.

I sent 1.06 over and I still failed. This is on a 200 acre hit also, on a high offense heavily chained province, so pretty important.

Please tell me what went wrong.

Thanks

[lmtdconv92]

Also I had a kingdom mate re-run the numbers and he came out with the same info.

[Bishop]

I sent 1.06 over and I still failed

^^ thats your issue. unless you have gnome intel thats not a guaranteed win.

[DHaran]

Troops out on a SoM is still accurate isn't it Bish?

[Bishop]

yes, it would be. ignore me, long day.

[Bishop]

ok, i looked properly.

You were ambushing army 4 - the one with specs - if you look at his som you can see the acres left on the returning armies.

[DHaran]

I was thinking maybe he ambushed in the wrong order but had no way of checking. Bishop has super powers :(

[lmtdconv92]

Wow quick ti jump the gun huh :) We arent all idiots till proven otherwise :)

OK I just got an email from the province I attacked. He said the bug may be a little different now.

His message
"Hey man. Noticed your failed ambush and found you in the bugs forum.

The bug is another. Your first ambush took 81 acres and killed only elites. You ambushed my first attack. Your second ambush failed because it was my second attack which had about 1000 specs.

Just thought you should know, already mailed Bishop about it.

Good luck "

and here are the attacks from the paper

May 7 of YR10 He invaded ME and captured 148 acres of land.
May 7 of YR10 He invaded ME and captured 125 acres of land.

May 12 of YR10 I recaptured 81 acres of land from Him.
May 12 of YR10 I attempted an invasion of Him, but was repelled.

We are at war, so explore pool gains are applied.

So the new bug issue is, My first ambush ambushed his first hit which was all elites. My second ambush failed, as he sent specs also.

[lmtdconv92]

OK, we posted at the same time.
From the guide"
You will ambush the last successful hit. Conquests don't count. You CAN ambush an ambush. "

So, how can I tell which one I am going to hit? It should be the last attack, correct? Not the first?

[Bishop]

you can tell by the return time. you ambush the last army out on you - if that makes sense. his second trad on you was faster home.

[lmtdconv92]

so, he had rax come in in between hits? This still seems odd. The first ambush I made, should have been on the 125 acres hit. The second should have been on the 148 acre hit.

here is the SOM I went off of

Military Intelligence on
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v2.04 Beta]

Server: World of Legends (Age 49)
Ruler Name:
Personality & Race:

** Summary **
Non-Peasants: 76.4%
Efficiency (SoM): 107.2% off, 129.7% def, 98.5% raw
Efficiency (CB): 127.42% off., 124.24% def.
Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 37,082
Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 58,388
Modified Attack points (calculated): 102,080
Modified Defense points (calculated): 74,648
Total Captured Land: 380

** Standing Army (At Home) **
Archers: 5,362 (39,970 defense)
Knights: 4,239 (43,211 offense / 15,800 defense)
War Horses: 1,797 (up to 2,290 additional offense)
Total Attack points: 45,500
Total Defense points: 55,770

** Army #2 (Back in 4:28 hours) **
Knights: 784 (7,992 offense / 2,922 defense)
Captured Land: 35 Acres

** Army #3 (Back in 4:28 hours) **
Knights: 774 (7,890 offense / 2,885 defense)
Captured Land: 46 Acres

** Army #4 (Back in 7:24 hours) **
Knights: 2,087 (21,274 offense / 7,779 defense)
Captured Land: 162 Acres

** Army #5 (Back in 8:25 hours) **
Swordsmen: 971 (4,949 offense)
Knights: 1,420 (14,475 offense / 5,293 defense)
Total Attack points: 19,424
Captured Land: 137 Acres

[Bishop]

this all looks weird, i need to get this right in my head so bear with me. army 4 hit first, then army 5 - and you ambushed army 4 on your first try, and bounced on army 5?

[DHaran]

It should ambush the last attack against you, and the army #s should be in order of use. So Army 5 should be the last to hit and should be the first to be ambushed right? If so something isn't right here.

[Bishop]

nah, army numbers are just general numbers. If army 3 comes back first you can send it out again and its assigned the same number.

[DHaran]

Ooooh ok I am probably just accustomed to returning in order. Still, going by what he says is in the paper it's not right. He got the 81 back first, which was from the first hit, not the last.