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    Remove extra gains from pool

    The 10% gains taken from the pool confuses new players, who believe they are winning when they compare papers and discourages some kingdoms from warring as they want to protect their pool.

    I don't see any benefit in it and believe it will do more to encourage top kds to war.
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    Here is my standard auto-reply to Bishop's suggestions:

    +1

    Where is everyone else? We need more oldie players coming up with these types of suggestions, rather than focusing on new races and drastic mechanic changes!
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    Just change it to:
    Januari 1 of YR1 Attacker(41:41) captured 100+10 acres of land from Victim(42:42).

    That should make it clear that part of the acres come from the exploration pool instead
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    That would be just plain ugly and even more confusing to nubs. There just doesn't seem to be any real benefit to having pool gains at all.
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    I don't mind seeing the extra acres gone. I just wanted to give a different approach to solving the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    The 10% gains taken from the pool confuses new players, who believe they are winning when they compare papers and discourages some kingdoms from warring as they want to protect their pool.

    I don't see any benefit in it and believe it will do more to encourage top kds to war.
    You're suggesting that since it confuses new players (btw, what new players?), we should get rid of it. That seems so very flawed...

    Unless your suggesting that those lost acres come from the prov itself and not just lost, then no. More acres = good.

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    It's just a useless function, and it makes it more difficult to track gains for ghettos who don't really know how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    You're suggesting that since it confuses new players (btw, what new players?), we should get rid of it. That seems so very flawed...

    Unless your suggesting that those lost acres come from the prov itself and not just lost, then no. More acres = good.
    most of my ghetto dont understand it - and no acres are lost as the pool is still available - the total potential acres is unchanged.
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    So we need to change how things work because ghettos refuse to learn?

    So we need to make turtling awesome, TM's the #1 choice, and 1 hit a day good?

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    It needs to change because it doesn't benefit the game.
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    The benefit is that it allows kingdoms to grow a little in wars but it's debatable if that outweighs the confusion.
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    You grow in wars by winning the war... both kingdoms "gaining" in war is silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    It needs to change because it doesn't benefit the game.
    This I can get behind, but basing the suggestion on "ghettos don't understand" I can't.

    What if you gain 10% of your acres taken post war and distribute it throughout the kd? Seems like it wouldn't be too abusable and if the acres are created instead of taken from the explore pool, it's an even better way to grow.

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    To be fair, ghettos not understanding was only one point in the OP. Encouraging wars was another good point :P
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