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    How The Law Really Works

    I know that I and others had quite a discussion regarding the 'laws' and how the US courts function, so now that this database has been made known to me, I am sharing it with all of you.

    Please read and understand what it tells you, for only we can save ourselves...

    http://www.one-heaven.org/ecclesiast...troduction.htm

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    you might want to talk to other people.were you one of the worlds ending on the 21st people also? how did that work out

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    You know I had typed out some responses to you Thunder TA, but I decided to erase them, because A: they were a waste of time, and B: they would have invited more **** talking.

    But I can definitely and assuredly say: You do not know what you speak of. That site I posted (the first one) is true, correct, legitimate, and can save someones ass in the court of law if they learn what it has to teach. It is all based on contracts.

    You spoke in the other thread about giving tickets, well heres a question for you mr. legal genius, if you were to give me a ticket, and I sign my name as: Without Prejudice and Under Duress, First: Last

    How would you counter that? Do you even know what that would entitle for you and I? Please, answer me, or you can just stay in your little knowledge bubble and say that I am "full of crap" and that "that doesn't exist".

    So... I don't understand where you are coming from regarding the 'worlds ending on the 21st' and 'was I one of those people'...? How does that have anything to do with the legal system?

    Could you please not troll my threads, and if you are going to, could you at least maintain a small level of respect and decency? Your acting like a child... (at first I thought you WERE a child, until you told me in the other thread your an "officer", then again, lots of "officers" act like children anyway.... Not saying they all do of course, and many awaken to these facts sometime down the line (unless of course they shut it out and shun it every time the universe tries to allow them the opportunity to broaden their lives/minds/knowledge, eventually the universe will stop offering because it will interpret that that is what you want) and how the world "really works" as you put it and tend to quit being a costume-wearing corporate-puppet anyway)

    WE are the UNIVERSE.
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    You should become a politician or policy analyst and get these despicable systems changed!

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    Well rather then continuing the ****ty system by becoming a politician or a political analyst, and only trying to 'play the game', why don't we all stop playing the game and just change it anyway?

    Resource Based Economy where Human Morality is the law, no poverty=no crime, no money = no evil, no bankers = no debt = no collapse = no manufactured illusions = no giving away real physical property b/c one didn't have enough illusory bank notes

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    your a good little troll with a nice conspiricy thread going ill give you that.

    But as to your little question about signing a ticket.It doesnt matter what you actually sign.you could sign santa clause.your on tape believe it or not and shown accepting the ticket .Thats all i need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirVanir View Post
    Well rather then continuing the ****ty system by becoming a politician or a political analyst, and only trying to 'play the game', why don't we all stop playing the game and just change it anyway?
    Because the system isn't ****ty. If it were, then there would be a revolution from the lower classes (and no, that isn't happening any time soon).

    Quote Originally Posted by SirVanir View Post
    Resource Based Economy where Human Morality is the law, no poverty=no crime, no money = no evil, no bankers = no debt = no collapse = no manufactured illusions = no giving away real physical property b/c one didn't have enough illusory bank notes
    Some problems with this theoretical society: 1) Humans have terrible morals. 2) There will still be poverty. 3) There might not be "bank notes" but there will ALWAYS be a monetary system and a commodities market.
    The fact that you think such a system has merit means you haven't done jack-**** in philosophical reading or any economic or political science studies. It seems like you haven't taken any studies of any nature and are just trusting information from extreme viewpoints that pick and choose from unreliable "statistics" that feed into their own personal philosophical views.

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    the problem with idealogical thinking of the liberal left-wing lunatics is that they believe they're all born with, or, are premeditated to be moral and ethical
    and that all humans, all society is designed to be that way. to act above-human, to rise above, and be the be-all, end-all
    which is the reason why they want a socialistic, liberal-totalitarianistic society where people are guided simply by their all good morals and ethics

    therein lies the failure of any and all liberal policies is that:
    1. the fact 1 individual grows up to be good is 90% in part due to parental guidance. liberals rarely give credit where credit is due. they are who they are is b/c f their parents, how they raised them, provided for them, giving their kids opportunities mom/dad never had. it is b/c the lack of gratitude toward that parental devotion that the child->adult fails to understand where their beliefs come from. majority of the liberal minded adults tends to put their parents in nursing homes, to die and rarely visits them b/c they cant bare to see them in such frail state of mind. even tho, as infants, their parents took care of them as infants are just as frail and lack any intellectual, emotional, mental capacity. simply, they bite the hands that feeds them.
    2. belief of no evil. this is another failure of the liberal left. b/c they dont believe in god, they dont believe in evil. thus they dont believe people can be bad. thats why you see how liberal-democrats and socialist parties deal with conflicts: buy their way out of the conflict, ignore the conflict, blame it on outside factors.
    you see all this in every democratic policy in american presidency.
    if the founding fathers were as docile as present day democratic presidents, would there have been a war with the Brits ?
    3. accountability. this is prevalant in both parties but i definitely see it moreso in liberal lefts only b/c of the way administration and policies are enacted. obama alone has now taken toys out of kids meals, taken out "bad" foods in schools, tax sodas, national healthcare, and legislation in progress to banning smoking in your own home/property. liberals choose to remove the object of impediment rather than letting the person decide for themselves and accept the consequences of teir own actions. its why prison systems are heavily guarded by human-rights groups. why mexican military cant move on drug lords b/c human rights groups defend harsh actions against those drug lords. its why extremist terrorist groups have thrived for so long.

    for a long time, i was against the idea of religion. after i attended a religious school and studied scriptures and philsophies of god, theology studies, etc.. i realized the reason for religion isnt about god itself, but its the believing, the faith, and its intrinsic value and guidance thats important. is the fundamental values of christianity, buddahism, confuscious, judaism, torah, koran, etc.
    typically, its the branching from the source that tends to pervert the fundamental philosophies: shariah law, jihads, crusades, cults, etc.

    at the same time, having parents who can raise you with basic good morals, ethics and beliefs also attributes to who you are as a person. your panrets can be agnostic or atheist, but the root of good parental rearing lies in knowing good and bad behaviors

    bad parents like these "Canadian mother defends keeping gender secret" again, very liberal left lunatics, are the reason why conservatives and right-wingers are riled up. b/c letting an infant decide everything is just bad parenting skills. theres a reason why you are the parent and they are the child. its the reason of eating fruit loops and dirt 24/7, poop/pee on the floor, touching hot stoves, versus 3 square meals a day, potty training, read/write.

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    hooray for tinfoil hats, zeitgeistfags, NWOfags, illuminatifags, and testsubjs massive Oedipus complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testsubj View Post
    the problem with idealogical thinking of the liberal left-wing lunatics is that they believe they're all born with, or, are premeditated to be moral and ethical
    and that all humans, all society is designed to be that way. to act above-human, to rise above, and be the be-all, end-all
    which is the reason why they want a socialistic, liberal-totalitarianistic society where people are guided simply by their all good morals and ethics
    It's more basic than that.

    It isn't about the "perfect" morals of human nature, it's about society's right to determine it's own interests.

    In the case of a democracy, it's interest is that of the majority (or more realistically in a plural society, the interests of several minorities making compromises with one another).

    I think capitalism taken to an extreme (like no government, no regulation, no powerful entity looking out of the interest of the labor) is as democratic as Russian communism or facism.

    I believe that once a good democratic system has taken hold and the people have actual power, there will be a tendency for a left leaning form of capitalism.

    Strangely enough, what has held back a lot of left leaning countries in history is an actual lack of democracy... an opaque welfare state that doesn't answer to it's electorate.

    However, the more democratic you become, the better the state will work for the interest of the people.

    Atm, democracy in North America is crap and hence, the whole right wing prophecy is self-fulfilling.

    We need a lot of democratic reforms before we can re-open the left-right debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by testsubj View Post
    1. the fact 1 individual grows up to be good is 90% in part due to parental guidance. liberals rarely give credit where credit is due. they are who they are is b/c f their parents, how they raised them, provided for them, giving their kids opportunities mom/dad never had. it is b/c the lack of gratitude toward that parental devotion that the child->adult fails to understand where their beliefs come from. majority of the liberal minded adults tends to put their parents in nursing homes, to die and rarely visits them b/c they cant bare to see them in such frail state of mind. even tho, as infants, their parents took care of them as infants are just as frail and lack any intellectual, emotional, mental capacity. simply, they bite the hands that feeds them.
    Parents also need support to do their job properly.

    Parents that are always geared in survival mode don't make good parents.

    For the first decade of my life, my mother was in survival mode and she was extremely volatile and temperamental. She was also rarely there... she came home late at night and she wasn't there during the weekends because she was teaching part time to supplement her income from her regular job.

    I agree that supporting your folks when they are older is important, but at some point, parents need CONSTANT assistance when they lose most of their autonomy. Did you ever have a parent with Alzheimer? It's a full time job and for single children, support is required either way (either to help take care of their parents or to support them while they are busy taking care of their parents), it's unavoidable in many cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by testsubj View Post
    2. belief of no evil. this is another failure of the liberal left. b/c they dont believe in god, they dont believe in evil. thus they dont believe people can be bad. thats why you see how liberal-democrats and socialist parties deal with conflicts: buy their way out of the conflict, ignore the conflict, blame it on outside factors.
    you see all this in every democratic policy in american presidency.
    Believing in god doesn't make you righteous. Many atrocities have been comited in god's name.

    And let's not forget those that call themselves religious, but only pay lip service to their religious tenets.

    Hey, Bush believed in God, but started the Iraq war. And what about trigger happy religious America? I think not killing is pretty high on the list of Christian priorities, but somehow, it has conveniently forgotten by A LOT of people who call themselves Christians. Christians of convenience would be a better term here.

    Quote Originally Posted by testsubj View Post
    3. accountability. this is prevalant in both parties but i definitely see it moreso in liberal lefts only b/c of the way administration and policies are enacted. obama alone has now taken toys out of kids meals, taken out "bad" foods in schools, tax sodas, national healthcare, and legislation in progress to banning smoking in your own home/property. liberals choose to remove the object of impediment rather than letting the person decide for themselves and accept the consequences of teir own actions. its why prison systems are heavily guarded by human-rights groups. why mexican military cant move on drug lords b/c human rights groups defend harsh actions against those drug lords. its why extremist terrorist groups have thrived for so long.
    A lot of industry leaders are hell bent on selling you crap.

    They'll lobby the state, brainwash you with tons of publicity and try to corner you when you are at your most vulnerable.

    They'll try to create a culture where it's hip to smoke so that people, when they are young and foolish, can start smoking and become hooked to it for life.

    You'll be bombarded by constant bad food ads that you might not buy otherwise if it wasn't put constantly at the forefront of your mind.

    You were talking earlier about the failability of human nature. Make up your mind about it. You can't have it both ways whenever it's convenient.

    I strongly believe in the failability of human nature personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by testsubj View Post
    for a long time, i was against the idea of religion. after i attended a religious school and studied scriptures and philsophies of god, theology studies, etc.. i realized the reason for religion isnt about god itself, but its the believing, the faith, and its intrinsic value and guidance thats important. is the fundamental values of christianity, buddahism, confuscious, judaism, torah, koran, etc.
    How about the religion of constantly thinking for oneself and constantly, critically, adjusting your view point when they are shown to be wrong to avoid being stupid (or at least, avoid being overly stupid)?

    Isn't that a laudable goal?

    I say that because somehow, the intrinsic values of Christianity are lost in a great many of their adherents somewhere along the way... Perhaps, they should be asking themselves: "Am I really Christian or am I just a lip service Christian?".

    Don't get me wrong, I stopped being Christian a long time ago so I don't really care, but I know that if I was still Christian, I wouldn't be alright with a lot of the crap the right wing is coming up with these days. Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably the core tenets of my Christian upbringing (things like treating thy neighbor well and loving them instead of hating them and avoid killing at all costs) that make me not alright with a lot of the right wing garbage.

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    There is a difference between murder and killing in order to protect/prevent wrongdoing. If you think "no war" is a Christian value, you've never read the bible. In the Old Testament there were many "God-ordained" wars and killing (Of innocents) to prevent future problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLyra View Post
    There is a difference between murder and killing in order to protect/prevent wrongdoing. If you think "no war" is a Christian value, you've never read the bible. In the Old Testament there were many "God-ordained" wars and killing (Of innocents) to prevent future problems.
    The war against Iraq was not about self-defense or saving lives.

    Sure, you may not have agreed with what was happening over there, but last time I checked my bible, Jesus was not hammering dissenters with a sledge hammer for being of a different opinion.

    You can't beat democracy into people. A lot of good people will end up dying and you most likely won't achieve your objective.

    It's stupid foreigner pride to think that what works well at home will work well halfway around the world.

    It's like having politicians who never took a bus in their lives legislate on public transit without consulting the users.
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