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    Age 51 Changes

    Hi folks - let us know what you think of the changes. Please keep it polite and on topic.
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    Thank god for the kd page update, I reeeeally hope it works, lol.
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    Orcs get their elite credits back!
    Province networth will be shown in SoT!
    This is my province. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
    My province is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
    My province, without me, is useless. Without my province, I am useless.
    I must attack hard with my province. I must attack harder than my enemy who is trying to pk me. I must pk him before he pk's me. I will...

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    So Avian still has it's -20% birthrate where it's leets is at 8/3. On the other hand, Faery has only -10% birthrate and it's leets at 4/7. In terms of offensive strength after balancing the offense and defense, they are about the same strength. Differences is that each Faery's leet cost 250 gc more than Avian but it has got TOG. If a Faery Sage were to run enough sciences, it could easily overpower an Avian (if u take offensive spells into consideration as well) imo.

    I still prefer if Undead has heavier science penalty to discourage the use of Sage pers to make up for it's weakness. Most pers still works very well with Undead imo.

    Orc is fine, so does human. Human Sage/ Merchant with enough science pumped is way overpowered imo.

    Rouge > Mystic. Halfing > Faery. Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carter View Post
    So Avian still has it's -20% birthrate where it's leets is at 8/3. On the other hand, Faery has only -10% birthrate and it's leets at 4/7. In terms of offensive strength after balancing the offense and defense, they are about the same strength. Differences is that each Faery's leet cost 250 gc more than Avian but it has got TOG. If a Faery Sage were to run enough sciences, it could easily overpower an Avian (if u take offensive spells into consideration as well) imo.

    I still prefer if Undead has heavier science penalty to discourage the use of Sage pers to make up for it's weakness. Most pers still works very well with Undead imo.

    Orc is fine, so does human. Human Sage/ Merchant with enough science pumped is way overpowered imo.

    Rouge > Mystic. Halfing > Faery. Enough said.
    Avian
    Penalty:
    * - 20% birthrate (reduced from -30%)

    Faery
    Penalty:
    * - 10% population

    Birthrate =/= Population
    Last edited by DHaran; 08-07-2011 at 13:40. Reason: Clarity.
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    Oh no! Undead looses mages fury? how are they supposed to be able to use NM then? :(

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    Changes are decent, although slightly boring imo. At least Elf was nerfed slightly, although there goes my original kd strategy ;)

    (Also to second what Tiberious said below, thanks for getting these out there well in advance!)
    Last edited by Lucky75; 08-07-2011 at 15:16.

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    Thanks for getting changes out there early. Gives us more time to think about it, as most are warring till eoa, and enjoy the brief break in between ages.

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    *waits for 10 pages of complaining that Undead got a boost*

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    Good changes overall, slightly dissapointed of dual button removal though.

    May I ask though why no changes for shephards? You changed dwarves slightly with increased BE but not a single change to shephard which is the pick that fewest people have taken.
    Grant them increased effectiveness or homes or something that will make them a candidate for other people than explorers or dwarves.
    Last edited by Garbak; 08-07-2011 at 16:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    Avian
    Penalty:
    * - 20% birthrate (reduced from -30%)

    Faery
    Penalty:
    * - 10% population

    Birthrate =/= Population
    My bad, I did not noticed the difference...

    Quote Originally Posted by Garbak View Post

    May I ask though why no changes for shephards?
    The immune to plague and the almost 0% requirement for farms is kinda imba imo. You are basically untouchable from the undeads...


    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    *waits for 10 pages of complaining that Undead got a boost*
    Seriously, Undead Sage is gonna have + 15% to Science bonus, making it a race without weakness at all (not including the leet conversion because it's free)


    We all are gonna see a rise in Orc Tact this age - the spec credits for Orc is superb. We are also gonna see Dwarf Sage with heavy food science pumped, not to mention BE and pop pump...

    In short, the next age would be quite balanced imo, except for undead (still being too imba) ...
    Last edited by carter; 08-07-2011 at 15:58.
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    It will have a +10.5% Science effectiveness bonus, and there are better options...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
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    Oooops... thanks, Dharan!

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    why would anyone pick UD now that orc can train elites with credits...stupid change.

    Good elf change tho. Would been boring to go war all elf kd's.

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