Is it still possible to PK a province?

[E_Boko]

was his name gojete? cause then it would make sense.

[Landro]

was his name gojete? cause then it would make sense.

Che is making things up. We just warred his kingdom and they didn't have the coordination to chain that deep.

[Che Guevara]

Che is making things up. We just warred his kingdom and they didn't have the coordination to chain that deep.

What are you talking about? You know we had the coordination to chain that deep, you yourself said we just choose the targets poorly. We had how many hits taking one of your guys down to 200 acres? A ton of quad-tapping 5 acre hits. Other than the fact we had TWO chain targets during our war with you, we had plenty of attacks on those two, and they were focused. If you weren't running GS, it would have been that much more effective.

-437 acres: Devaluation (4/31)

That was one "wave" by 12 people. It would have been more but several people involved in the chain either only hit once, or weren't even able to hit. If we had all been online and had armies home, it would have been a different story. You guys yourself said that our initial wave was "fairly coordinated" or something, with 16 provs in the initial wave. When we have a plan, we are coordinated. Perhaps we didn't have the best plan, but you can't say we didn't have the coordination for a single deep chain. One thing our kingdom is pretty good at is attacking someone we are told to attack, and we can get quite a few people online for an initial wave if we are expecting it.

Whatever, though, Landro is a liar like half his kingdom, so I'm not even going to argue with him. If he looked at the war honestly, he'd see that we indeed have the activity and coordination to do deep chains. We just didn't have the ability as Elf/Human to withstand deep chains like his Orcs. Even with several of our most active attackers getting taken out of the war in the first 12 hours, we still managed to stay fairly close in terms of uniques and hits. 64 uniques vs 78 uniques min-time, considering considering 6 of our active attackers only managed to make 1-2 uniques due to deep chaining, thats pretty impressive for the circumstances.

[Landro]

If you weren't running GS, it would have been that much more effective.

And that's exactly the reason why we do run GS. You actually picked the guy who was running the most GS of us all.

-437 acres: Devaluation (4/31)

That was one "wave" by 12 people. It would have been more but several people involved in the chain either only hit once, or weren't even able to hit.

There was never any risk of him getting PK'd. Not only did you pick the guy with the most GS, you picked a player with a lot of experience surviving chains (but you couldn't have known that)

If we had all been online and had armies home, it would have been a different story. You guys yourself said that our initial wave was "fairly coordinated" or something, with 16 provs in the initial wave.

You gave away the button at the start but didn't expect war? Your initial wave was very nice but it was 16 attacks, not 16 provs.

When we have a plan, we are coordinated. Perhaps we didn't have the best plan, but you can't say we didn't have the coordination for a single deep chain. One thing our kingdom is pretty good at is attacking someone we are told to attack, and we can get quite a few people online for an initial wave if we are expecting it.

Plan? You were trying to get a war with a kingdom with 12 Orcs and only one of you was running GS. The reason why our chains were so much more effective is because we had our people hit by net worth. We didn't have 900 acre provinces making a quad against a chained province for 5 acres per hit.

[Che Guevara]

And that's exactly the reason why we do run GS. You actually picked the guy who was running the most GS of us all.



There was never any risk of him getting PK'd. Not only did you pick the guy with the most GS, you picked a player with a lot of experience surviving chains (but you couldn't have known that)



You gave away the button at the start but didn't expect war? Your initial wave was very nice but it was 16 attacks, not 16 provs.



Plan? You were trying to get a war with a kingdom with 12 Orcs and only one of you was running GS. The reason why our chains were so much more effective is because we had our people hit by net worth. We didn't have 900 acre provinces making a quad against a chained province for 5 acres per hit.

As I said, the plan may have been been bad, even terrible, in hindsight. But you can't argue that we didn't have the coordination to pull off a deep chain on an un-GS'd target. Well, YOU can argue, apparently, but anyone with a brain would have to admit that we could pull off a deep chain, especially when we have the first wave.

It is sad that you are trying to derail this thread into a conversation about how great your kingdom and plan was, though. Yes, you beat us, very soundly. Move on. We had good activity, despite being chained early and demoralized throughout. Since you don't know what we are fully capable, and even what you saw was enough for us to do what I said we did, try and keep your nose out of business that isn't any of your concern.

[Che Guevara]

Your initial wave was very nice but it was 16 attacks, not 16 provs.

For the period of February 4 of YR2 to February 5 of YR2 (2 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince

** Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 20 (1330 acres)
-- Traditional March: 19 (1278 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (52 acres)


The Kingdom of (xx:xx)

Total acres exchanged: +1330 acres (20/0)
+169 acres: Pucks Pointy Stick (2/0)
+107 acres: Kvas War Pig (1/0)
+96 acres: Staceys Stilettos (1/0)
+95 acres: Grymm Bastards Blade (1/0)
+92 acres: The FauX Death Flail (1/0)
+92 acres: Nocturnes Blades (2/0)
+91 acres: Dead Mans Musket (1/0)
+88 acres: Barrens Glaive (1/0)
+85 acres: Hans Katzbalger (2/0)
+81 acres: The Chosen Mace (2/0)
+79 acres: Arbalest Duck (1/0)
+72 acres: Lawdies Longbow (1/0)
+63 acres: Gun Chariot (1/0)
+49 acres: Piercing Gun (1/0)
+48 acres: Ideal Man Catcher (1/0)
+23 acres: Bojangles Hardened Halbred (1/0)



Granted, two of the attackers were right after the hour change, but it was 16 provinces attacking with 20 attacks.

[friday90]

Can someone explain what happened to the raze attack that makes PK-ing different now than in the past? I'm an old Utopia player coming back and trying to learn all the differences between then and now. Thanks!

[Bishop]

raze in war kills buildings, not acres :(

[Flair]

Its possible to PK a prov, but now-adays I find it basically only happens if someone makes a mistake. Or sleeps. (which tbh, is always a mistake).

[E_Boko]

its mostly a mistake, an overlslept, a too drunk, or if your name is gogete.

[Sheister]

"gogete"

Thank goodness no one in the game goes by THAT name.

[kbone]

or kuhan

[E_Boko]

lmfao. i doubt kuhan has been Pked since last age.

[Palem]

He hasn't

But he's still a noob subject to pk'ing lol

[kaznaradak]

0 acres or 0 peasants. PK means province or peasant kill.

most people forget to turn off wizard drafting.

yup exactly what happened to two overdrafted faeries we deep chained. boom 2 pk's.