Cradle of Civilisation - Whites and Blacks

[Shaun]

By the way i am/was Elf. Some asshole stole my email address and now i can't log in as Elf. Also i was/am scorpio86 and astronomer86 - cyberstalkers take note.

[Shaun]

I am still young but the older i get the more disenchanted with Human society i become. Maybe Humanity is just plain too flawed to ever unite and make the world a good place for all people.

It seems to me that without people the Earth would be perfect.

[Bishop]

I'm going to IP ban you if you make any more accounts. Use one and stick to it.

[Shaun]

I was not aware that multiple Forum accounts are against the rules.

If the mods are trying to lessen and keep low the number of Forum users then congratulate yourselves as it is working.

[Bishop]

Now you are aware. Quit acting the smartass, thanks.

[Shaun]

According to Palem its not against the rules to have multiple forum accounts. But NM

[goodz]

I beleive in evolution and the big bang theory, i beleive that Africa was the cradle of civilisation and that humanity spread out across the earth from there.

In Africa there is much ferocity between whites and blacks, caucasians and africans. Many black africans do not beleive that whites have a right to live in 'their country'. After the slave raids and the boer war i can understand their defensiveness regarding this. However i beleive people have a right to live in whichever country they choose.

Many africans travel to England and Europe in search of a safer existence, and they too find that many of the English and European whites do not beleive they have a right to be there. Africans that move to England find themselves confronted by neo nazis, voicing opinions of immigrants in 'their' country that are stealing work.

What are people's thoughts? Do whites have the right to live in Africa? Do blacks have the right to live in England?

I live in Australia and here there are quite a few similarities. I was born in western australia and i have never once been over seas, every single nano-second of my life has been in australia and yet because i am white i will never be seen as native. It is all due to skin colour which i think is foolish.

Aboriginals seem to beleive that Australia is 'theirs'.

African's seem to beleive that Africa is 'theirs'.

Europeans seem to beleive that Europe is 'theirs'

Does it matter what a person's skin colour is, or what their ethnicity is? What are people's thoughts?

Europeans and asians born or living in Australia seem to 'step on the toes' of the Aboriginals simply for being here. Europeans born or living in Africa apparently 'step on the toes' of Africans and black's born or living in England and Europe seem to 'step on the toes' of whites.

I have heard the saying ' everyone should just go back where they came from' a few times in my life, mostly by drunk aboriginals late at night :-)

If people did indeed go back 'where they came from' wouldn't we all live in Africa anyway?

And i was born here in Australia, so isn't this where i came from anyway?

This train of thought has been bubbling away in my mind for over a decade since my foolish teachers tried to teach me about 'sorry day' to the aboriginals. :-) yes i am so so so sorry that two hundred years ago somebody none of us knew shot somebody else that none of us knew - that is totally my fault - not! Apparently white people aren't even allowed to go to Ayer's Rock anymore, and we aren't even supposed to call it Ayer's Rock, apparently it is Uluru. Bugger that, i have always wanted to go to Ayer's Rock and if i am ever driving past (albeit not very likely) i am damn sure taking a tour - spear weilding aboriginals or not :-)

Should white people all live in Europe? Should asians all live in Asia? Should black people all live in Africa and the islands?

In my opinion it is horrendously stupid to beleive that they should. All people descended from the same 'tribe' and our skins have only changed because of the parts of the world our ancestors travelled to.

I think black people should be allowed to walk the streets of england and russia without being gangbashed by bald and angry white men (skinheads) and likewise i beleive that white people should be allowed to live in africa without being decapitated and set on fire. I beleive the entire earth is our home for everyone, regardless of skin colour.

Thoughts? Opinions?

You should learn more of your history. Animosity probably exists because Australia had terrible policy until midway through the 20th century. It is still considered to be a pretty racist country.

Based on a movie I watched that I forget and not any facts australian aboriginals from who knows how long ago until the 1970's were taken from their families and raped / denied education. In a government effort to make the country more white. It is a wonder they dislike you, many from that generation still live. Pretty much every white australian I have met hates the aboriginal people of australia. So meh! Its no wonder they dont like you there.

[Hurlin]

You should learn more of your history. Animosity probably exists because Australia had terrible policy until midway through the 20th century. It is still considered to be a pretty racist country.

Based on a movie I watched that I forget and not any facts australian aboriginals from who knows how long ago until the 1970's were taken from their families and raped / denied education. In a government effort to make the country more white. It is a wonder they dislike you, many from that generation still live. Pretty much every white australian I have met hates the aboriginal people of australia. So meh! Its no wonder they dont like you there.

We won the war suck it up

[Shaun]

I was born in 86 dude.

[Shaun]

Oh and there are riddles waiting for you in general talk.

[The Moon]

Since we all descended from Africans, could we all go to Africa and claim native title?

[makeo]

Oh, and on a side point as every Euro has f'ed a neanderthal in their genetic past, we gave up native rights. :p

Could have been worse, she might have been from Kilkenny.

[makeo]

Personally, I've found England to be more multi-cultural than portrayed here.

The attitudes posited reflect that more of my grandfathers generation/slightly my fathers.
Although there is right wing middle class media that perpetuates it as well.

By 2120-30, when the baby boomers gen. is over, and they all largely dead, I would consider immigrants to the UK as being way more racist than the UK itself.

It's quite amusing, as an Irishman.To be told that English culture is crap by other European immigrants to the UK who are seeking to "educate" me, when we chose to live there for the economic benefits, and they're the racist ones. :p

Especially when they seek to perceive racism on them, while doling it out to others under the heading of "national pride in my culture".
My opinion is people should live where they choose, and believe in that. If you are doing it just for money, but hold the place in contempt, there's something wrong

[Tapout]

Panspermia, live anywhere you like in the entire universe.

[himmlersberg]

Whites in Australia step on the toes of the natives not for being white but because of the whole history of wiping out native australians and taking their land and all. It is also terribly revisionist to pretend racism against aboriginal and the genocide against them was 200 years ago when the whole residential schoolings aimed at ehtnically cleansing aboriginals ended in most of our life times. aS for white people all living in Europe, I'm not even sure if that is where white people originating from. The problem is not with skin color per say, it is the actions of some white people in the past and how many of us benefit from those actions.

My personal opinion is new world countries like America, Australia, Canada etc should just be divided equally amongst the whites blacks, latinos and native indians and allow another nation for the integrationist fools to breed themselves out of existence in. As for the old world countries it will depend, some like africa or china we know who the people were in them 2-3 thousands years ago. Other ones like Europe will be more complex, probably just best to divide it up between the whites and nonwhites or maybe us whites should just take back central asia after all it was stolen from us by the east asians. I'd have no problem leaving europe to the blacks if all of the central asians east asians left and allowed the whites to come back.