elves and forts is win
more to modify
elves and forts is win
more to modify
Yeah, I'm currently running 15% TG 10% forts as Halfling since I can't have hospitals, and guard stations are useless without hospitals / cleric.
For Elf I don't think I could fit in forts, as there's a need for so many other buildings to function. How do you manage that?
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If I have 10 defense specs per acre as an elf and 20% forts
If I have 10 defense specs per acre as any other race and 20% forts
which one gets modified the most smarty pantz.
You don't use Forts to get a higher net defense, you do it to get more population moved from defense specs to elites, so not really...
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unless your trying to be near unbreakable... like alot of elves this age...
And they fail.
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or do they get top of honour charts hmmmmmm
When trying to be unbreakable in war forts reallly reallly reallly help elves.
10 DS/A isn't unbreakable, which is what you were just saying.
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Nowhere near it actually. Keep in mind that not matter WHAT you do on def, there is an Undead or Orc somewhere just waiting to eat those pointy eared mofos. The numbers are just stacked HEAVILY against defensiveness. The highest defense per unit possible is a 7, and that comes with a -10% pop multiplier. Whereas there are two races with 9 off elites, two with 8...not to mention Stables and TGs do work together, even if it isn't the best use of building space...you can see where this is going.
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Within the confines of a war, it is possible to build an unbreakable, but unless you're far larger than their largest attacker, then 10DS/A is too little to become UB.
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That's more where I was going with that. Not saying UB is impossible within war...or even outside of it, assuming you are the top of the food chain. Just making the point that you will ALWAYS have to work harder than the guy swinging away (or severely outsize everyone) to be unbreakable. Just how the game is tilted. 10 Dspa is just...not very impressive. Hell, 10 epa for a Faery is easily breakable unless much bigger than everyone else.
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The 10DPa was hypothetical... ... used for the purpose of showing modification.... obv elves would have higher
Nobody in a warring KD cares about out of war... If you are in a good KD you are not going to get hit unless your a juicy plunder target
Last edited by The Imp; 14-12-2011 at 02:45.
Gotcha, but if you were going the route Ethan has been espousing, you WOULDN'T run the same 10 dspa on your Elf that you ran on any other race. You would actually want to cut back to 8.3 dspa in that case to maximize the number game and get better Fort benefits. The entire premise behind what he does is maintaining a specific mod dpa, and using the excess pop created by the use of Forts for offense, not increasing your actual defense. But I am sure you're well aware of the weird way he likes to do things by now. ^_^
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~~~D. Randall Blythe
ah yeah, he was talking about maintaining it while i was thinking about building it...
but still, surely, forts would help and elf to maintain the same DPA better than any other race...
human with 20% dme from forts becomes 6 def points gaining 1 point
elf with 20% from forts becomes 7.2 def points gaining 1.2 point
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