It's not like War or be farmed were the only options! They could have been all like we aint letting you push us around. No war but we will retal the crap outta you. Then just keep hitting back but not giving the button. Hopefully they see it is pointless and tuck tail and run.
In bold no less! :POriginally Posted by TeddybearSTHLM
Hi Katje!
btw, am I the only one seeing the LOCATION in the article???
Again; you have 3 options when you receive a CF offer which are 'valid' and 'fair'.
1) Accept it, move on.
2) Decline it, fight.
3) Ignore it, fight/move on.
What you did was lame and I'd like to see your reaction when this backfires and happens to you also in the future.
Thats not luck, thats a violation of a cease fire. They offered you one despite not having negotiated it with you. Does that mean a cease fire isn't valid?? No. CFs are so often sent and accepted without being negotiated; not everything needs political bull**** to be solved. You violated that cease fire.
They should implement a feature which doesn't allow one to break a CF straight after it happened, that way 'lamers' cant abuse it.
They must have posted the location in bold so the angry people know who to attack
My question is why 'validity' or 'fairness' matters. "All's fair in love and war", right?
I would certainly support a change to the cf, where you can't accept and break.
Since that isn't currently the case I will just say my view differs from yours prot. If a cf is sent without negotiating it I wouldn't at all be surprised if they reset relations. Always agree to it with the monarch beforehand. I understand you have different views on the matter.
If a suggestion were made to change the feature, like I said I would support the change
Go ahead, prot. Attack him. You know where he is.
nice war..
btw.. Dont post KD locs.. >
Lol, 3 seconds. So I guess it wasn't much of a surprise.
Why did Stronghold switch Monarchs mid hostile/failed negotiations?
My guess is this. SH has a monarch and co monarch. one has the other half of the votes so if something happens while the currant monarch isnt online the co monarch can deal with it. With one vote change he has the monarchy and can speak and act while the other isnt there.
When was it you started thinking you were better than me?
♥ Katje ♥
no matter what its lame to accept and then break CF to reset relations and then give an excuse like ooo we are teaching noobs to negotiate before offering CF like that. just cause its been done to you doesnt make it right. ppl waving into hostile just because they know they will get a free wave. is that right for kingdoms to do it? no. but it happens and its just as lame.
Icy 4 8
Who moaned to realest about a supposed chain? Please link me moaning about that, in my 1st war I wasn't hit untill the last few hours... The opposition kd (the only one to beat us in war) let me grow and constant plague hurt ^.^
I can't recall moaning about that, I doubled my size in our 1st war.
As for the ironic, what that our monarch attempts to open a channel of communication? Same as always, intentions was sent and that time we faced a better kd than SH.
Wrong, the 3 choices are;
1. Accept
2. Decline
3. Ignore
Anything you put afterwards are just your moral opinions and not a direct result.
And I think ppl reading to much into media stories are equally lame ^.^
We violated nothing, we was honest with our stance and we stuck to it, they gave us a preasant... thats all. When people start making assumptions then they can start making errors, stop living by assumptions and you'll get fewer nasty suprises.
Well make the sug instead of whining about it, there is a sug forum for these kind of things.
DDodge did say;
"Im surprised at the amount of out rage at the cancel. I was of the opinion that you shouldn't send a cf unless you have an agreement. Im still new and learning things as we go!"
Personally I dont think it's lame to use any mechanism in the game, the CF mechanism is to help with poitical relations and if some kds don't use the tool correctly then there is no harm in them getting burnt, TBH i doubt DDodge will do that again BUT I don't have a moral objection to doing such actions. If people have difficulty with that then there is the sug forum to sug a change on how CF can work and/or they can take up arms and use there own might to enforce there own personal justice, our own moral judgment has equally as much right as yours do to you, I doubt anyone would enjoy having other peoples opinion on morals forced upon them.
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."
it's a clear loss for us SH.,
b4 the war started it was pretty clear what will be the result, since we got one province under vacation ^_~,
but the king of mymydrones or what ever., from 2.8k down to 900 acres., ohh actually hes at 1.8k acres now., wahahahhahahha.,
about the whining thing, is not called whining., its called asking why you broke the cf ?
thats the main issue., it's called back stab., you gained 4k acres during the first hostile and all we did is sit and sent the CF., you accepted and break it,
normally we would take the war rather than sending another CF and you will just accept it and break it., cause u are suck one of a silly backstabber.,
your the first one to whine about getting waved by another KD., well in fact i got some ops from that kd you said you had a problem with.,
does that make any sense? or pure coincidence?
"Well, we got waved pretty hard by another kd before that and we wanted to wait for a coordinated strike back on them, but they entered a war... All the build up angst had to be released somewhere.. And you came along.
Wow.. I like how the only people that think accepting/breaking a Ceasefire to carry out a second hostile wave is acceptable are the ones that did it..
For the record, I'm not in Stronghold. We have a fairly large back-dating of wars with SH in the past ages, so although I have respect for them, they are still enemies.
^ So where is "4. Accept & Break"?
I'm not really surprised how people are so oblivious to what they do, and only see it in others. We call it Psychology.
What?! xDDDD That's not a deliberate mechanism of the system. That has just not been questioned much, or posed much of a threat; until now at least.
A mechanism is something that works as the code was intended. I doubt they intended on letting people do such acts, and maybe, it will be altered next age, who knows?
Either way, dishonourability (if that's a word) is half subjective. There are some things about it based on morals, others are pretty commonly factual. I would probably put accepting & breaking a CF into the "pretty-commonly-factual-dishonour" part, as you seem to agree that the 3 options are Accept, Reject, or Ignore. You do not need to "negotiate" any CF offers. Negotiating is an added diplomatic effect, usually done to entice the opposer's will to be mutual and respectful about things.. A CF is a CF. That's "pretty-commonly-factual" too.
I wonder if you guys would be open to someone killing people in the real world, all because they believe their moral judgement is correct about "cleansing" the world of "sinful" people, or some crap like that.. Moral only goes so far. Society dictates how far that goes, even if it is meant to be solely subjective. Governments don't make it subjective.
As I've said before, if that's how you play, that's fantastic. I just think it's blind foresight. As in, will it really be worth sacrificing the mercy people would've given you if you were honourable?
Hard2Get, your name truly fits you. I have no clue what you are trying to say but chaining a suiciding monarch to 900 acres is not something to laugh or brag about. Leaving that province above any more than 100 acres is just sad and if SH is filled with players like you than I understand why the button was pressed and why Myrmidons consider you such babies.
Please, Myrmodins was doing a good job at looking themselves look stupid but with your post Stronghold made itself look mentally invalid.
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