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    UF NEWS: Lil Rascals war The Keepers

    The war between the kingdoms of Lil Rascals and Keepers was slightly heated due to actions made by Keepers during the hostile period and lead up to the war declaration. Rascals had only left their previous war a few days prior to hostilities starting with Keepers and they had been beaten quite badly in that war and felt were in no shape whatsoever to participate in another war so soon. On top of that, Rascals had a couple of players that were going to be absent along with trying to get a new province out of protection and fully set up.

    Once Keepers waved Rascals with massacres, Rascals told them that they were not interested in war and jumped into fortified. Everything seemed to go well as Keepers sent a cf along after their wave, which Rascals accepted.

    January 14 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.

    January 22 of YR6 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Keepers - hostile Keep out.

    However, this state of affairs was not to last long as apparently, just prior to accepting the CF, Rascals had laid down MS on the attackers of Keepers. The players of keepers complained to their monarch about accepting the cf and assuming that Rascals now wished to war, Keepers broke the cf and carried on hitting.

    February 4 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!

    February 5 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has begun a Emerald Dragon project against us!

    Rascals got very sick and tired of the situation with keepers and they asked a friendly kingdom to come to their aid. That friendly kingdom hit keepers, in the hope that it would force keepers to back off of Rascals. However, Keepers kept hitting and the monarchs of each kingdom (rascals and keepers) exchanged pms. Rascals have supplied a few to illustrate what was going on behind the scenes.

    The Humble King Monoxide of Keeper Of Real said:

    we are just looking for a fight man, you guys were the best target on the server... we did try dirty tactics to drag you into war. and i understand if you dont trust me. If you wont accept CF i understand and i will stop hits, cancel dragon and go fort. and we will just let relations die normally. honestly i thought we could piss you off enough to fight.... now we are just wasting time when we could be warring another

    > King Xenos the Blessed of Vanguard said: >
    u took cf and broke it. and u expect me to trust u?

    > The Humble King Monoxide of Keeper Of Real said: >
    It is obvious that i will not be able to "drag" you into war. send CF and we will move on.

    The agreement at this end of this conversation was that the kingdoms would let relations decay between them without sending cfs. Keepers went into fortified as agreed, cancelled their dragon and stopped hitting.

    March 12 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has cancelled their dragon project targetted at us.

    Rascals apparently used this time to get busy with their ops - MS, FB and NS. This prompted Keepers to go back to hitting Rascals. Keepers were also heavily annoyed by the fact that Rascals had called in a friendly kingdom to try and help them out. Keepers do not feel they did anything wrong as they were only trying to get war in a war based game. With Rascals opping they were happy to carry on with their hits:

    April 11 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.

    April 11 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has withdrawn their ceasefire proposal.

    April 12 of YR6 Keepers - hostile Keep out has begun a Sapphire Dragon project against us!

    With the situation as it was, Rascals decided that they better start getting proactive and deal with Keepers. With the continued actions of keepers and Rascals now being faced with their pending war, activity was at its highest for the kingdom. The monarch of Rascals stated that he felt that because of the circumstances, his kingdom was so mad that it made them more determined to beat Keepers. They blanketted MS and stated a dragon, sending in a few massacres in order to move to unfriendly and got ready to declare war.

    May 10 of YR6 Our kingdom has begun a Gold Dragon project targetted at Keepers - hostile Keep out.

    May 21 of YR6 We have declared WAR on Keepers - WAR!

    With war declared, Rascals focused on taking out Keep of K24 as that province had army out and no incoming acres. They were able to take 1.1k acres within the first hour of war from that one province. They next focused on the orc shepherds of Keepers while laying MS, riots and greed 24/7 with their elves to keep the orcs weak. Rascals focused on dropping provinces 1 by 1 and when Rascals realised they had much better activity than Keepers, they focused on hitting those provinces with the most uniques to demoralise the most active provinces in Keepers. Any hits that the chained provinces of keepers were making, Rascals made sure to ambush them to keep those provinces down. The provinces in Rascals that had went on vacation returned during the war due to the fact the hostile period had taken so long and they were able to fund the 2nd dragon although they did not send it as Keepers had not killed the 1st dragon they had sent.

    Keepers on the other hand felt that the hits from the kingdom that got involved to help out Rascals combined with land hits from another kingdom (which were random) dictated what they could do in the war. Keepers felt they had to stick to max gains once war was declared to minimise their losses by the time they WD. The only hope that Keepers felt they could have in the war was if they could shut down the t/m power of Rascals. They had failed to do this and by minimum time, Rascals were expecting Keepers to withdraw as they were up 2.4k acres and around 800k NW. When Keepers did, Rascals focused on keeping to their strategy and eventually won it after 66 hours!

    January 14 of YR7 Keepers - WAR has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!

    SUMMARIES:

    Hostile summary from Lil Rascals:

    Total Attacks Made: 33 (1233 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 22 (1233 acres)
    -- Massacres: 5 (4775 people)
    -- Plunders: 6
    Total Attacks Suffered: 73 (2164 acres) - (Rascals were also taking random hits)
    -- Traditional March: 34 (2164 acres)
    -- Massacres: 19 (17636 people)
    -- Learns: 14
    -- Plunders: 2
    -- Failed Attacks: 4 (5.5% failure)

    The Kingdom of Lil Rascals

    Total acres exchanged: -931 acres (33/73)
    +483 acres: Anonymous province (9/0)
    +65 acres: Stinky Dawn (1/0)
    +51 acres: Silent but Deadly (1/0)
    +0 acres: Qualinost (0/1)
    +0 acres: Cygnus (1/0)
    +0 acres: Halfer Farm (1/1)
    +0 acres: Mirkwood (0/2)
    +0 acres: Nexus (1/0)
    +0 acres: Ostrovia (0/3)
    -29 acres: Sludging Hill (5/3)
    -32 acres: Puff (2/3)
    -40 acres: Trunk (3/5)
    -52 acres: Incomplete combustion (1/6)
    -131 acres: Vanguard (1/4)
    -133 acres: TROLOLOLOL (6/9)
    -162 acres: Tombstone (0/2)
    -169 acres: DunChaWannaKnow (0/16)
    -179 acres: I am Lost (1/4)
    -258 acres: Forestwalk (0/8)
    -345 acres: Sipek96 (0/6)

    The Kingdom of Keepers

    Total acres exchanged: +1741 acres (60/6)
    +308 acres: Anonymous province (7/0)
    +292 acres: Keeper Of Souls (4/0)
    +290 acres: Hell View (5/0)
    +262 acres: Return of Boobies (9/0)
    +205 acres: Keeper Of Real (6/0)
    +144 acres: ucmeicu (2/0)
    +77 acres: Keeper of K24 (7/0)
    +76 acres: Land Of Fantasy (3/0)
    +68 acres: Keeper of Demons (2/0)
    +19 acres: Asgard (3/5)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Garbage (1/0)
    +0 acres: Keeper of I Need More Cowbell (2/0)
    +0 acres: Great SWE (0/1)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Nothing (4/0)
    +0 acres: Keeper of the Light (1/0)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Keepers (4/0)

    Hostile Summary from Keepers:

    Total Attacks Made: 52 (1357 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 18 (1232 acres)
    -- Ambush: 2 (125 acres)
    -- Massacres: 16 (15371 people)
    -- Learns: 10
    -- Plunders: 4
    -- Failed Attacks: 2 (3.8% failure)
    Total Attacks Suffered: 26 (2204 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 17 (2136 acres)
    -- Ambush: 1 (68 acres)
    -- Learns: 3
    -- Plunders: 2
    -- Failed Attacks: 3 (11.5% failure)

    The Kingdom of Keepers

    Total acres exchanged: -847 acres (52/26)
    +392 acres: Anonymous province (7/0)
    +87 acres: Keeper Of Souls (2/0)
    +77 acres: Keeper of K24 (4/0)
    +27 acres: Asgard (3/2)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Keepers (3/0)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Garbage (2/0)
    +0 acres: Keeper of Nothing (4/1)
    -62 acres: Land Of Fantasy (2/1)
    -68 acres: Keeper of the Light (2/1)
    -81 acres: Great SWE (1/3)
    -91 acres: Return of Boobies (6/1)
    -103 acres: Keeper of Demons (1/2)
    -136 acres: Hogwarts (0/2)
    -142 acres: Hell View (5/3)
    -194 acres: ucmeicu (5/6)
    -261 acres: Keeper Of Real (3/3)
    -292 acres: Keeper of I Need More Cowbell (2/1)

    The Kingdom of Lil Rascals

    Total acres exchanged: -670 acres (1/35)
    +0 acres: Ostrovia (0/2)
    +0 acres: Halfer Farm (0/1)
    +0 acres: I am Lost (0/1)
    +0 acres: Mirkwood (0/2)
    -37 acres: Sludging Hill (0/1)
    -52 acres: Incomplete combustion (0/5)
    -63 acres: Vanguard (0/2)
    -66 acres: Puff (0/1)
    -80 acres: Forestwalk (0/7)
    -90 acres: TROLOLOLOL (1/2)
    -113 acres: Tombstone (0/1)
    -169 acres: DunChaWannaKnow (0/10)

    War Summary from Lil Rascals:


    Total Attacks Made: 276 (13106 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 229 (11781 acres)
    -- Conquest: 8 (216 acres)
    -- Ambush: 23 (1109 acres)
    -- Raze: 1 (28 acres)
    -- Failed Attacks: 15 (5.4% failure)
    Total Attacks Suffered: 118 (9051 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 91 (8445 acres)
    -- Ambush: 12 (606 acres)
    -- Massacres: 1 (3101 people)
    -- Failed Attacks: 14 (11.9% failure)

    The Kingdom of Lil Rascals

    Total acres exchanged: +4055 acres (276/118)
    +1273 acres: Anonymous province (12/0)
    +844 acres: I am Lost (18/3)
    +554 acres: Sipek96 (21/7)
    +553 acres: Silent but Deadly (12/0)
    +547 acres: Nexus (19/2)
    +459 acres: Cygnus (14/7)
    +425 acres: Stinky Dawn (12/4)
    +378 acres: Puff (16/2)
    +313 acres: Mirkwood (14/2)
    +215 acres: Trunk (9/3)
    +179 acres: Rabanastre (13/0)
    +139 acres: Old Pekulier (6/0)
    +75 acres: Sludging Hill (13/3)
    +74 acres: Qualinost (3/1)
    +26 acres: Halfer Farm (10/3)
    -43 acres: Vanguard (11/12)
    -102 acres: Totally Not a N00b (15/12)
    -155 acres: Forestwalk (4/1)
    -177 acres: TROLOLOLOL (5/11)
    -227 acres: DunChaWannaKnow (6/4)
    -229 acres: Ostrovia (15/5)
    -424 acres: Incomplete combustion (18/22)
    -642 acres: Tombstone (10/14)

    The Kingdom of Keepers

    Total acres exchanged: -4083 acres (118/276)
    +750 acres: Keeper of the Seven Keys (7/0)
    +527 acres: Keeper of Garbage (5/2)
    +472 acres: Anonymous province (4/0)
    +393 acres: Keeper of Keepers (7/3)
    +321 acres: Asgard (3/0)
    +309 acres: Keep WOP (4/0)
    +293 acres: Keeper Of Souls (3/2)
    +157 acres: Keeper of I Need More Cowbell (3/0)
    +139 acres: ucmeicu (2/0)
    -22 acres: Dun nGed (4/3)
    -58 acres: Great SWE (0/1)
    -738 acres: Keeper of Nothing (11/25)
    -832 acres: Hell View (6/14)
    -857 acres: Return of Boobies (9/44)
    -857 acres: Keeper of the Light (15/29)
    -940 acres: Keeper of Demons (6/30)
    -940 acres: Land Of Fantasy (4/14)
    -1071 acres: Keeper of K24 (13/47)
    -1129 acres: Keeper Of Real (12/62)

    War Summary from Keepers:

    Total Attacks Made: 134 (10517 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 101 (9856 acres)
    -- Conquest: 2 (55 acres)
    -- Ambush: 12 (606 acres)
    -- Raze: 4 (72 acres)
    -- Massacres: 1 (3101 people)
    -- Failed Attacks: 14 (10.4% failure)
    Total Attacks Suffered: 291 (12663 acres)
    -- Traditional March: 248 (11454 acres)
    -- Ambush: 23 (1109 acres)
    -- Raze: 5 (100 acres)
    -- Failed Attacks: 15 (5.2% failure)

    The Kingdom of Keepers

    Total acres exchanged: -2146 acres (134/291)
    +820 acres: Keeper of the Seven Keys (7/0)
    +681 acres: Anonymous province (5/0)
    +590 acres: Keeper of Garbage (5/2)
    +480 acres: Asgard (4/0)
    +454 acres: Keeper of Keepers (7/3)
    +338 acres: Keep WOP (4/0)
    +333 acres: Keeper Of Souls (3/2)
    +200 acres: Keeper of the Light (3/0)
    +172 acres: Keeper of I Need More Cowbell (3/0)
    +152 acres: ucmeicu (2/0)
    +32 acres: Dun nGed (4/3)
    -501 acres: Great SWE (0/15)
    -522 acres: Keeper of Nothing (11/25)
    -637 acres: Keeper of the Light (15/29)
    -670 acres: Hell View (6/14)
    -741 acres: Land Of Fantasy (4/14)
    -800 acres: Return of Boobies (9/45)
    -842 acres: Keeper of Demons (6/30)
    -924 acres: Keeper of K24 (13/47)
    -937 acres: Keeper Of Real (12/62)

    The Kingdom of Lil Rascals

    Total acres exchanged: +2046 acres (277/120)
    +1163 acres: Anonymous province (12/0)
    +736 acres: I am Lost (18/3)
    +508 acres: Silent but Deadly (12/0)
    +487 acres: Nexus (19/2)
    +335 acres: Stinky Dawn (12/4)
    +323 acres: Cygnus (14/7)
    +287 acres: Mirkwood (14/2)
    +273 acres: Sipek96 (21/8)
    +205 acres: Trunk (10/3)
    +167 acres: Rabanastre (13/0)
    +129 acres: Old Pekulier (6/0)
    +115 acres: Puff (16/3)
    +57 acres: Qualinost (3/1)
    +3 acres: Sludging Hill (13/3)
    -22 acres: Halfer Farm (10/3)
    -149 acres: Totally Not a N00b (15/12)
    -176 acres: Forestwalk (4/1)
    -177 acres: Vanguard (11/12)
    -258 acres: DunChaWannaKnow (6/4)
    -262 acres: TROLOLOLOL (5/11)
    -310 acres: Ostrovia (15/5)
    -587 acres: Incomplete combustion (18/22)
    -801 acres: Tombstone (10/14)

    Comments:

    Nemo of Lil Rascals made the following comment:

    Although we did not want war, in the end I'm glad we did. I'm happy to spank the players who do dirty tricks to try and get war. Bullying KDs into war. Karma is a b*tch and I hoped they learned their lesson.

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    GJ Rascals!

    Low amount of hits for Keepers... No total uniques available? :o)

    Good article with lots of info, Maddy!

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    Unique count: Rascals: 103 - Keepers 67

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    If you don't want to war and want a CF don't cover the opposing kingdom with MS. That is pretty much visitation card saying: "Hi, we want to war". I am not surprised that the CF got broken because it should have not been accepted in the first place. Then sending a friendly KD after them to turn it into a 2 vs 1 while it is your own kingdom being at fault for doing MS is rather distasteful too. Then when Keepers decide that to strike a deal to move on and stick to the deals Rascals breaks the deal by doing more ops. The article portrays Keepers as the bullies and untrustworthy but afaik Rascals breaks 2 deals and turns a 1 vs 1 into a 2 vs 1.
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    We didn't start covering MS till ~day 3 or 4 of the wave, a couple may have had random MS that I didnt order. I wont argue that. Also the friendly KD had just gotten oow. They only did like 10-15 hits on them compared to Keeper's 60 on us. We did the MS so not to feel Keepers got away scott free with 5 days of hits. And only on day 5 did we choose to fight them. The first Cf was broken to redo relations, nothing more we felt like. We hardly did anything to them when CF was taken.
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    Ah. The article doesn't specify that they made 60 attacks before accepting the 1st CF proposal. From the article it just reads it is one wave, Rascals don't want to war, CF sent, MS done, CF accepted. Not 60 hits and then CF. My bad then.

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    60 hits over 5 days while we were in fort.

    It was:: keeper wave-->keeper CF sent/accepted/broken/dragon--> keeper wave-->rascal friendly help-->still being hit by keppers--> keeper cf sent/withdrawn/dragon--> rascal coverage MS(quickly after cf/dragon actions)--> rascal dragon/war
    Was there random MSs done before coverage MS? probly. Some Rascals have shorter temper then I do.

    Hope that helps clarify things. It was a big mess leading to war.

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    Yeah. And it looks like the article is far from accurate either. It makes rather a difference in between one wave and being waved for 5 days straight, the latter not being stated in the article. My apologies NEMON1C.

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    It's all good. It was a lot of info to organize and write and I thank Mad_Scottish for writing it. I'm just happy to to have had this war written about. Something besides top KD news in forum is a nice change.
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    We will always cover articles we just need to have them brought to our attention as well. Also there are time constraints as we reporters get busy as well :P

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    276-118? Good job out-hitting them, rascals. No wonder keepers got flogged

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    Thumbs up Great work rascals!

    I'm glad you and your kd came out on top Nem0
    Nicely written article too. It's a difficult situation to properly report on.

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    Fancy war! How large, in relation to the Keepers, was that other kingdom you are friends with? It seems as though there was a lull in activity during the prewar phase, did the Keepers move on or issue any CF orders in their kingdom while they were being attacked by multiple kingdoms? There's a 24hr period between March 12th and April 12th where it looks like the Keepers cancelled a dragon and even proposed a CF. If you were looking to avoid a war why didn't you capitalize on this apparent lull? Did your TM power lay off of them during this time?

    It looks like bullies begat bullies here...

    Awesome activity by the way!

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    The friendly was roughly 9-11k acres larger, just recently getting out of war they tried helping us out, but only sent a couple hits (10-15).
    We did not take their 2nd CF...would you have done so if the first one was broken and followed by more hits?? No. We did not trust them after that with anything they said or did.
    It wasn't until late April/May that we started actually taking initiative and covering MS. Feeling by that time for them to go away unscratched would be a crime.
    Before that, as I said, there were a couple random MSs and Ops by my teammates who had gotten angry of Keepers and who I couldn't hold back, but it was not heavy crazy strategized ops or anything of the sort.
    We only hit them 6 times prewar compared to their 60 times. 1 hit was in march or April by a player we kicked out after the war finished, the other 5 hits were in May when we decided to just war them.
    And thanks, I never seen my KD so active, I was truly proud of them.

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    9-11k acres... That's pretty substantial for smaller kingdoms. What would that make them, 175% their size? And they said there were more than one kingdom attacking them. Sounds like you have yourself an alliance.

    The whole article seems very one sided. I don't see any Keepers in here and Mad Scottish makes no reference to interviewing them for this article. That makes this whole thing seem very jaded and one dimensional.

    But even if what I see is the whole story then at best it still looks like bullies begat bullies.

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