UF News: Melee Weapons melts away in the Hall of Force

[Chuck]

Hostilities began when Hall of Force(HoF) started up a Ruby dragon and sent a half-wave of Anonymous traditional marches(TM's) into Melee Weapons(MW). MW stated that at the time of HoF's wave, they were low on gold due to exploration and prior conflicts. MW reacted by stealing as much gold as they could, followed by a bounce wave on HoF's Faery-Monarch. This allowed for a single plunder of 3 million gc's, which helped MW to start their own Ruby Dragon. HoF continued to send anonymous TM's into MW, who were in Fortified stance.

** MW Hostile Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 30 (1040 acres)
-- Traditional March: 6 (1040 acres)
-- Plunders: 4
-- Failed Attacks: 20 (66.7% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 33 (9269 acres)
Traditional March: 33 (9269 acres)


After 18 hours of conflict MW declared war and launched their dragon. Both sides began with heavy chaining, which continued throughout most of the war. At Minimum time, HoF clearly had the upper hand on land gained, but neither kd was willing to withdraw. MW felt as though their setup of undead/tacts and halfling/rogues would outlast the orc/clerics from HoF over a longer time span. In addition, MW thought they were gaining momentum with their nightstrikes, fireballs, and the delivery of their second dragon, an emerald beast!

On a Side Note, HoF leaders hold no bars when it comes to war?
they had a player
typo his irc pass
in their pub
so when he logged off
i logged on
<@E_Boko> as him?
yes
got one of their players to bounce with a bad off # to send
<@TDC> evil
then took the tpa/wpa/order list from the bot
trolled a bit
and they figured it out
just... comedy
<@E_Boko> sigh
<@E_Boko> you at war
yea
long war
i think we're towards end of day 4
maybe start of 5 im not sure

*Logs taken from #tactics on irc.utonet.org*

The war continued with each side conducting chains and semi-chains. More dragons were sent and killed and massive amounts of ops were conducted. The holiday season also had a noticeable impact on activity as each side had provinces missing a hit here and there... one province even got killed due to not logging in to release into peasantry.

After 6 days of warring, the monarch of HoF approached the monarch of MW about a possible Mutual Peace. MW declined at the time because they still felt there was an opportunity for a win. Around 30 hours later though MW was not seeing the momentum swing in their favor like they had hoped, and so MW went back to HoF's monarch about the possibility of MP. This time it was HoF's turn to decline, and so the war continued for another 10 hours. Finally, on the 9th day of conflict, both monarchs agreed to Mutual Peace.

** MW WAR Summary **

Total Attacks Made: 1161 (152631 acres)
-- Traditional March: 1005 (140568 acres)
-- Conquest: 17 (1953 acres)
-- Ambush: 83 (10110 acres)
-- Learns: 1
-- Failed Attacks: 55 (4.7% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 1298 (148700 acres)
-- Traditional March: 1158 (137987 acres)
-- Ambush: 81 (10713 acres)
-- Learns: 29
-- Failed Attacks: 30 (2.3% failure)

The Kingdom of Melee Weapons

Total acres exchanged: +3931 acres (1161/1298)
+3372 acres: Neverwinter Battle Staff (45/21)
+3192 acres: Labrys (43/26)
+2500 acres: Mysteltainn (34/6)
+2045 acres: Machete (19/5)
+1969 acres: Scythe (19/1)
+1908 acres: Brass Knuckles (56/24)
+1787 acres: Battle Axe (29/6)
+1375 acres: Switchblade (16/2)
+1266 acres: Anonymous province from (x:xx) (3/0)
+683 acres: Flamberge (27/9)
+604 acres: Heaven Sword And Dragon Sabre (69/51)
+584 acres: ArchAnGeL XcalibuR (60/67)
+449 acres: kilij (60/49)
-21 acres: Masamune (28/13)
-217 acres: Surujin (29/16)
-685 acres: Spiked Mace (64/73)
-1084 acres: Glamdring (65/70)
-1231 acres: Lead Pipe (69/96)
-1374 acres: Sharp-sucked Candy Stick (41/45)
-1604 acres: Mace (29/43)
-1698 acres: Seremban Tekpi (76/110)
-1718 acres: Broken Beer Bottle (64/95)
-1822 acres: Claymore (39/63)
-1978 acres: War Hammer (41/83)
-2140 acres: Heaven Sword (66/104)
-2231 acres: Keris (70/220)

The Kingdom of Hall of Force

Total acres exchanged: -3931 acres (1298/1161)
+41490 acres: Anonymous province from (x:xx) (165/0)
+2579 acres: Fish Head Curry (47/5)
+2435 acres: Largemouth Bass (22/4)
+1798 acres: Razorback sucker (63/16)
+1058 acres: Striped burrfish (29/1)
+484 acres: derp derp derp (15/2)
+288 acres: Mobula eregoodootenkee (28/13)
+215 acres: Goldenscale Tastyfish (41/27)
+159 acres: Monkeyface prickleback (21/5)
-652 acres: Barracuda (53/26)
-797 acres: Blowmefish (44/28)
-1484 acres: Chiasmodon Niger (28/21)
-2100 acres: Goldfish in a Bowl (75/86)
-2247 acres: Jew Fish (41/33)
-2359 acres: Tuna (35/69)
-2391 acres: Harpadon Magnus (63/53)
-2756 acres: Black Marlin (67/80)
-2801 acres: Death Valley Pupfish (72/63)
-2815 acres: Assam Fish (52/53)
-3194 acres: Siamese fighting fish (13/46)
-3339 acres: Ikan Bilis (69/164)
-3400 acres: Bull shark (32/54)
-3443 acres: Humuhumunukunukuapuaa (49/50)
-4103 acres: Oplegnathus Fasciatus (40/69)
-4370 acres: bighead carp (59/70)
-4611 acres: Nat Pagle (36/50)
-7575 acres: Salmon of Doubt (39/73)

Lead_Pipe, Monarch of Melee Weapons, Commented:

It was a lot of fun for Melee Weapons, a great opportunity for us to figure out a way to beat orc/clerics. Unfortunately we're still looking for the answer. Force grew alot, I hope the rest of the server gives them time to rebuild before vulturing, because we made sure they earned them acres.

Hall of Force Leadership Declined to Comment or provide any info.

[Darkmoore]

[Darkmoore]

[Drop Dead Sexy (DDS)]

No info from Force submitted?

it was fun war, very active, and interesting.

Id like to say for record ovenmitt didnt cause that bounce, his suggestion of 41k offense was ignored and the player sent 46k he thought initially good... he needed 51k.
It was also what gave him away as we would never recomend such a low amount of offense... combined with the fact he flat out told us several times "im a spy".. LoL

orc cleric, wow... tired of warring them already, got to the point we couldnt even overpop them properly cuz we hd FB the remaining large orcs so heavily. at one point thier entire KD averaged less than 5 PPA. Yet they still funded that emerald...
If ever a war deserved MP it was this one, with it being christmas eve, and the fact that orcs and undead could be chained at will. leaving not much leverage for either KD.

The land spoils definatly went to Force, congrats on that good sirs. cant wait for the rematch.

[brickwolfman]

@darkmoore, you got a couple of locations posted in your first post mate

[Decibel]

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Did Chuck get it on with your moms to deserve such childish replies or something?

Anyways, it was a fun war so thanks to everyone involved.

[Darkmoore]

brickwolfman: I assume we have moderators in these forums.. They can clean up after this rather ...... rule about not posting locs in the forums.. that rule should have be removed long time ago..

Decibel: no matter what reporter PMs me would get that feedback.. so chuck should not feel special..

[DDodge]

trying to chain orc/cleric is retarded. no matter what you cant eliminate their offense.

anyone that is decent at dealing with a chain just drops pezzies and defense and starts 5x tapping other chained targets, while keeping 120+ opa.

its fun and all but its definitely something that i dont think anyone has figured out a way to counter. do you let the orc/cleric grow??? cause chaining, no matter how deep, doesnt really get the job done.

[Drop Dead Sexy (DDS)]

do you let the orc/cleric grow??? cause chaining, no matter how deep, doesnt really get the job done.

Ideally this is what you do... but when there is 22 of them in one KD... you cant let the ALL grow. + thier gains stay significant even at higher size.

you could keep an orc down. AN orc... not 2. LoL

[DDodge]

its an impressive setup these days. the +30% gains is astronomical.

[Ovenmitt]

No info from Force submitted?

it was fun war, very active, and interesting.

Id like to say for record ovenmitt didnt cause that bounce, his suggestion of 41k offense was ignored and the player sent 46k he thought initially good... he needed 51k.
It was also what gave him away as we would never recomend such a low amount of offense... combined with the fact he flat out told us several times "im a spy".. LoL

orc cleric, wow... tired of warring them already, got to the point we couldnt even overpop them properly cuz we hd FB the remaining large orcs so heavily. at one point thier entire KD averaged less than 5 PPA. Yet they still funded that emerald... we shouldnt have slayed the 2nd ruby beast

If ever a war deserved MP it was this one, with it being christmas eve, and the fact that orcs and undead could be chained at will. leaving not much leverage for either KD.

The land spoils definatly went to Force, congrats on that good sirs. cant wait for the rematch.

**Darkmore your first post shows Locations.....

The emerald was paid for almost entirely between the two large elfs and myself.

[gergnub]

so who was the nub who got pk'd?

[macleod]

we noticed one of the faeries was starting to get low on peasants from a chain, but we didn't really make any special effort to actually pk him. He had the lowest defense in their kd, so we were just sending spare offense at him after awhile. As chances had it, he did die from pezzie loss.

After that, Force went into a rage and tried sooo hard to cause a pk on one of our guys. Went as far as 5 or 6 people emptying their stealth kidnapping before the tick to try and get a pk. Was rather comical to go to such extremes when one of their own guys simply died due to inactivity and luck. Either way, they were unable to pk as they decided to try pking the most active player in our kingdom.

As DDS mentioned up higher, we had basically their whole kd suppressed under FB fire. We simply targeted whoever had the most peasants and FBed them. The orcs all had pretty weak wpa since they were orcs, and since they were all super large. We didn't attempt to FB the elves.

Wanna know how to beat orc clerics: NS them, and chain them when their offense is home. It's the only way. We successfully did it to one of their orcs: Harpadon Magnus. Either he wasn't very active or just got caught on a bad day, but we NSed him super hard and then chained him all home. After being chained he was left with very low offense, so we decided to just let him grow as much as he wanted... After awhile he ended up with 3k acres and 30 opa.

Second way to beat them, but less effective: Fireball them ALL to very low numbers. You will get a networth advantage. If you can get their whole kd under 5 ppa or even less ppa then you will have a severe NW advantage.

I'm a firm believer that if we had not waited on taking down the elves, and fireballed all of them from the beginning, we would have won the war. Their two big elves made them confident.

Either way, the MP was deserved. Perhaps if it wasn't holiday season, MP wouldn't have made as much sense... However, lots of us were tired of warring, and didn't see the stalemate between our two kds changing.

[Bishop]

brickwolfman: I assume we have moderators in these forums.. They can clean up after this rather ...... rule about not posting locs in the forums.. that rule should have be removed long time ago..

Decibel: no matter what reporter PMs me would get that feedback.. so chuck should not feel special..

Its easier and faster to ban you and delete your post.

[Ovenmitt]

we noticed one of the faeries was starting to get low on peasants from a chain, but we didn't really make any special effort to actually pk him. He had the lowest defense in their kd, so we were just sending spare offense at him after awhile. As chances had it, he did die from pezzie loss.

After that, Force went into a rage and tried sooo hard to cause a pk on one of our guys. Went as far as 5 or 6 people emptying their stealth kidnapping before the tick to try and get a pk. Was rather comical to go to such extremes when one of their own guys simply died due to inactivity and luck. Either way, they were unable to pk as they decided to try pking the most active player in our kingdom.

As DDS mentioned up higher, we had basically their whole kd suppressed under FB fire. We simply targeted whoever had the most peasants and FBed them. The orcs all had pretty weak wpa since they were orcs, and since they were all super large. We didn't attempt to FB the elves.

Wanna know how to beat orc clerics: NS them, and chain them when their offense is home. It's the only way. We successfully did it to one of their orcs: Harpadon Magnus. Either he wasn't very active or just got caught on a bad day, but we NSed him super hard and then chained him all home. After being chained he was left with very low offense, so we decided to just let him grow as much as he wanted... After awhile he ended up with 3k acres and 30 opa.

Second way to beat them, but less effective: Fireball them ALL to very low numbers. You will get a networth advantage. If you can get their whole kd under 5 ppa or even less ppa then you will have a severe NW advantage.

I'm a firm believer that if we had not waited on taking down the elves, and fireballed all of them from the beginning, we would have won the war. Their two big elves made them confident.

Either way, the MP was deserved. Perhaps if it wasn't holiday season, MP wouldn't have made as much sense... However, lots of us were tired of warring, and didn't see the stalemate between our two kds changing.

He was inactive and afk for 2 days irl, just like the other faery was. TBH we probably only had 20-21 active players the whole war. You wouldn't have been able to fireball the elves just like you wouldn't have been able to fireball me... too much wpa. Thankfully orcs dont need peasants or income. We were beat out majorly activity wise. Had activity been better, I honestly think the acre shift would have been ugly. Real ugly. But it is what it is. I got fired for brokering/accepting the MP, the majority of FORCE was not happy with it (or me) afterwards. Life goes on.