Harmony HaJ vs Vengeance.
Any bad blood from last age between PurpleHaze and the HaJ alliance carried over to this age when after Icey HaJ found out early in the age where Vengeance was and decided to wave them in the hope of a war after warring last age. This upped the anti between all kingdoms involved as Vengeance decided to war Perversion HaJ instead and lost. Not long after these events Icey HaJ still wanted thier war they re-waved Vengeance and once the war had been declared, the whole objective for Icey was to drop Jupiter, the province of PurpleHaze because of the continued threats of razes and the whole stigma that PH attaches to size.
Below is a quote from one of the players in Icey and his analysis on their war with Vengeace:
"While their bottom provinces were turtling, we were continuing to bring down their other provinces, at one point before we switched to max gains, we had 5 provinces under 500 acres with another on the way. Chaining that many to about that level killed their networth. All those halfers were overpopped and dropped NW like a bad habit."
Icey identified the dwarve provinces as less of a threat so they focused on bringing the halfers down since they were more active and more of a threat. ANY chance Icey got to hit PH they did, which was quite often because the PH kept oversending on razes. Icey used annon on all hits on Jupiter and also used annon on the first big 5 hits on any halfer to avoid them ambushing and reclaiming some of the acres. Icey felt the war had been won by min time and didn't bother to fund their 2nd dragon as they full expected Vengeance to WD which they did. They felt that as long as they could mess up the province of Purplehaze, there was no way he was going to stay in the war. Certainly in this case, that turned out to be true.
Following these events Vengeance waiting until Perversion HaJ ended thier EOWCF with Mostly Harmless and waved them that same hour. Harmony started hitting Vengeance the next hour to help get Vengeance to back off of Perversion. During this hostile period Harmony focused on hitting provinces with armies at home or those larger provinces with armies out to split the networth of Vengeance between the top few provinces and the rest of the kingdom.
The following is a chat log between the monarchs of Harmony HaJ(mad_scottish) and Vengeance(purplehaze)
Session Start: Sat Dec 24 20:54:37 2011
[20:54]u guys r the most pathetic alliance on the server u do r ealiz that right? gonna get a nice article written up and we will push the button on u so please take us to hostile and when we r done beating the living s*** out of ur kd we will come back for (perversion)
[20:55]whatever dude
[20:55]enjoy what comes next
[20:55]i dont like you, you dont like me
[20:55]for interfering with our hostile
[20:55]so dont bother talking to me
[20:55]i call in my kds now
[20:55]if you win then you win, whatever
[20:55]no just pushed this further son so enjoy the consequences of it
[20:55]i already told you, bring your friends, ill bring mine. convo over
[20:56]my friends will put ur kds to shame
[20:56]ttyl
[20:56]just like
[20:56]whatever dude
[20:56]u and ur pathetic allies
[20:56]you are going on ignore now
[20:56]that cant fight 1 on 1
[20:56] ->> Added purplehaze to Ignore list
Vengeace declared on Christmas day after hostilities began earlier on Christmas eve.
June 18 of YR7 Vengeance HOSTILES has declared WAR with our kingdom!
There were no dragons as Vengeance had a gold dragon pointed at Perversion and Harmon opted not to start a dragon so as to use the resources to keep trained and fully built. Vengeance were just under 2 million nw and 11k acres larger than Harmony, thus Mad_Scottish of Harmony felt it was rather pointless to start a dragon against a kingdom with a much stronger economy. Given the fact that hostilities had started on christmas eve and living up armies was problematic due to people being busy and taking time to get online, Harmony focused on duration ops and fireballs against the largest provinces in Vengeance. Aries, 4inher and Mercury along with Jupiter were the largest provinces and had the biggest economies. FB were focused on all 4 provinces with NS also being purely focused on Jupiter.
With war declared on christmas day it was nearly impossible to get everyone on to set up a full wave so Harmony continued to focus on networth splitting Vengeance to keep provinces in top gains range for their orcs. Vengeance focused on semi chaining the orcs for gains, which only helped Harmony in the long run. As the war neared the 24 hour mark, Harmon had organised a wave time for people to be on for and heavy chained Jupiter, monarch of Vengeance and province of Purplehaze. The province was dropped 4400 acres within an hour while hits were also focused on other provinces to control their networth and bring in further gains and honour. Vengeance continued to semi chain/max gain against the orcs of Harmony while sending in a couple of hits on the faeries, made by 4inher and Aries. Mercury was also able to get a hit on Crimson Tide, which led to him being chained down in another wave made by Harmony. By this stage, Harmony were focusing their NS on 4inher to drop his offence so that he was unable hit one of the larger faeries without completely suiciding. The faeries also increased their drafts and started to train more defence which also prevented Aries making any further hits, after 2 previous bounces being made.
This chat log was roughly 24hrs into the war
Session Start: Mon Dec 26 13:08:24 2011
[13:08]u got a cute kd over their, doesn't like to take loss easy, massacre waves coming up soon just so uknow we won't make this easy, on ur faeries dont get off the hook either
[13:09]that was always going to have to happen anyway
[13:09]yea we know, nice job with NM, not gonna do much with my topfeed but lets see, im 70k underpop, u pick ur targets wisely! . i know it's more of a pain thing rlly, haj tries to take me down all the time out of spite
[13:10]not really
[13:11]but GL remainder the war
[13:11]but anyway mate busy atm :P
[13:11]same here
[13:11]we got about another 40 hits to make in next few hours, wanna push 150 plus hits for first 24 hours u know, well that put us closer to 200 for first 24 i think, anyways GL
[13:11]i know what you are doing anyway and like i said to you before this all started, if you win then you win, whatever
[13:11]we already won bro, this is jsut childgames
[13:12]and i said to you that you probably would
[13:12]we havn't even started to rlly try and hurt u
[13:12]because of the nw and land advantage, i dont really care to be honest PH, do what you need to do to make you feel good or whatever
[13:12] ->> Added purplehaze to Ignore list
Around the middle of the war, there was also provinces getting banned due to comments being made in the war forums. 2 of the provinces in Vengeance were banned and were completely locked out of their provinces. Mad_Scottish of Harmony stated that he was only aware of the one province that had been banned, which he assumed was Mantus due to the comment made about a players daughter "getting raw dawged by her uncle from behind". It was posted in the utopia forums as well, as the player did not seem to think that that was a breach in player conduct. The war forums as a whole were creating a lot of animosity between the kingdoms and both monarchs and some of the other players in the kingdoms had to step in and make a post asking people to just focus on the war rather than just continually flaming each other.
At minimum time the monarchs got together for another chat
Session Start: Tue Dec 27 18:38:36 2011
[18:38]lol, GL, now comes the real chaining, u think u can do 1 lousy chain a day and win this war, ur way off dude. ur little orcs will start goin down hard now, we just playin games, but now its hard chain my friend, was playin nice wiht u, but no longer so enjoy it!
[18:40]BBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[18:40]its been brought retard, u so dumb
[18:40]i already told you
[18:40]ur still down 5k acres
[18:40]if you win the war then you win the war, whatever
[18:40]what makes u think u will win, u wont
[18:40]ok, then i wont
[18:40]now we gonna chain u into s***
[18:41]may as well just stay in war for a while then
[18:41]so keep playing ur f***ing games, yea, please do
[18:41]whatever dude, will do
[18:41]so when we end up 20k acres
[18:41]lol ok bring it
[18:41]youll see were u went wrong
[18:41]i want to see it
[18:41]good u will, peace n***a
[18:41]n***a? lol, thats hilarious, so cute
[18:41]the only thing cute is watching ur kd fight, thats cute lol
[18:41]yep
[18:42]ur down by over 100 hits and dropping on us fast
[18:42]so much talk
[18:42]we up so much acres is funny
[18:42]for a kd thats stomping us you like to talk a lot of crap
[18:42]i like to talk realistic i was being nice with ur kd about not killing u
[18:42]no aspect of you is realistic
[18:42]and chaining u think
[18:42]hahhahahahahahaa
[18:42]we just went for acre grabs
[18:42]hahahahaha
[18:42]lol
[18:42]oh haha
[18:42]laugh all ya want
[18:42]so cute yep
[18:42]but now
[18:42]im laughing dude
[18:42]whe nur little orcs
[18:42]aww baby
[18:42]start goin down
[18:42]come and chain them whoop whoop
[18:42]they will be, not 1 a day 4 a day son, watch and learn
[18:43]good on you, you are going on ignore again cause you bore me
[18:43] ->> Added purplehaze to Ignore list
The 3rd day of the war was probably the biggest turning point as Harmony were able to take 7800 with their evening wave dropping 3 provinces, while continuing to op down 4inher with NS. By the end of the 3rd day in the war, the 2 million nw and 10-11k acre advantage that Vengeance had held over Harmony was gone. By the morning of the 4th day, harmony were pulling away in terms of acres and networth and with the NM and NS runs province so effective, it was only a matter of time before the other large provinces of Vengeance would be dropped. Vengeance hit with as decent a wave as they could before Harmony were able to make another evening wave and withdrew from the war.
March 20 of YR8 Vengeance WAR has withdrawn from war. Our people rejoice at our victory!
Mad_scottish of Harmony HaJ left this comment:
There is a lot of BS and a lot of beef between a few of our kingdoms and Vengeance right now. It is mainly related between the actions of Purplehaze and what he feels are the actions of HaJ and the whole dynamic of, we think we are right and he thinks he is right. Either way, I am getting a bit sick of dealing with it and over the next few days I am hoping to be able to put the whole drama to rest so that the kingdoms involved can just focus on themselves and their ages without having to deal with on going issues. Kudos to my kingdom for their activity and their desire to be on during a really bad time of the year to be warring. I love you guys!!
Vengeance were unreachable for comment.
The following are PM's between the two monarchs of Harmony HaJ and Vengeance after thier war finnished.
Mad_scottish sent this msg:
Hi PH, I mean this seriously because I would like everyone to be able to move on without the BS slinging and this turning into a pain in the butt for everyone involved.... There are issues with you guys, perversion and icey. Would you give me your take on the whole thing so that I can talk to both kingdoms about it all and try and get things to a point where one kd isnt looking to just constantly jump on the other and what not. I have already spoken to E Boko and we are all on the same song sheet in terms of trying to get things sorted so that people can just focus on the age and their kingdoms without things degrading further and further to a point where we all want each other to die horrible painful deaths. If you can, please give me your version of events with icey earlier in the age and then perversion. If you dont want too then you dont need too (obviously). I just wanted to extend the opportunity for us all to be able to walk away from the BS.
Purplehaze replied:
I appreciate that, honestly. I would prefer our kingdoms can agree to a peaceful resolution to the hostility. Honestly, the best thing I can think of right now would be a NAP with CF's sent to our respective kingdoms and we can both move on for rest of the age and discuss further age arrangelemts later on.
Mad_scottish responded :
Right now there is a lot of heat and there is just more and more BS developing and it annoys me mainly because we used to get on, regardless of how things ended with HaJ. I would rather get back to a cordial relationship that is based on mutual respect and trust, which is completely lacking atm and that sucks. I would rather see your kingdom continue to develop and players not getting warped by what has become quite an intense age of involvement between you guys and us (icey, perversion and harmony). So games aside, the whole previous history of this age aside, I would really like to try and move forward. I will send a cf along to you! I will talk to perversion and icey and get them to send cfs or you can send them and I can tell them to accept etc. I cant send a cf at the moment (obviously due to the war) but will happily sort it once we are out of war.
Agreeing Purplehaze sent this:
The tension just got out of hand and put both of our ends on uneven places, but really I'm really glad that we can put this past us and just move on and go for a fresh start. I think everyone can focus more on the fun again, I will send ove the CF's to Icey, Perversion, You guys and if anyone else in your alliance wants to send us a CF have them do so and I will accept it. You guys fought an impressive war and deserved the win in th
With what appears to an end to hostilites mad_scottish sent this final msg:
Yeah it did and it just created a huge rift that no one could traverse. I will tell icey and perversion to keep an eye out for the cfs so they can be accepted quickly. At least we now have a post war cf that can cover new years and we can chill
War between Icey HaJ and Vengeace earlier this age provided by Icey HaJ:
War Summary:
Total Attacks Made: 199 (16519 acres)
-- Traditional March: 173 (15729 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (162 acres)
-- Ambush: 8 (628 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 14 (7% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 206 (13739 acres)
-- Traditional March: 189 (12983 acres)
-- Ambush: 11 (756 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 6 (2.9% failure)
Hostile between Perversion HaJ Vengeance provided by Perversion HaJ
Total Attacks Suffered: 15 (388 acres)
-- Traditional March: 3 (388 acres)
-- Massacres: 10 (16548 people)
-- Failed Attacks: 2 (13.3% failure)
The Kingdom of (Perversion HaJ)
Total acres exchanged: -388 acres (0/15)
+0 acres: seven prior (0/1)
+0 acres: revise porn (0/6)
-94 acres: ever rips on (0/2)
-122 acres: viper snore (0/1)
-172 acres: no server pi (0/5)
The Kingdom of (Vengeance)
Total acres exchanged: +388 acres (15/0)
+172 acres: 4inher (1/0)
+122 acres: Anonymous province from Vengeance (3/0)
+94 acres: 0pium (1/0)
+0 acres: Honos (1/0)
+0 acres: Nodotus (1/0)
+0 acres: Aequitas (1/0)
+0 acres: Mars (1/0)
+0 acres: Hercules (1/0)
+0 acres: Somnus (1/0)
+0 acres: Jupiter (1/0)
+0 acres: Mercury (1/0)
+0 acres: Ceres (1/0)
+0 acres: Arimanius (1/0)
Hostile, Harmony HaJ and Vengeance provided by Harmony HaJ
** Summary **
Total Attacks Made: 22 (4234 acres)
-- Traditional March: 22 (4234 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 9 (1267 acres)
-- Traditional March: 6 (956 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (311 acres)
The Kingdom of Harmony HaJ
Total acres exchanged: +2967 acres (22/9)
+594 acres: Goldmember (3/0)
+483 acres: White Men Cant Jump (2/0)
+406 acres: Men In Black Men (1/0)
+344 acres: The Color Of Magic (2/0)
+328 acres: Dorian Gray (1/0)
+301 acres: Curse of the Golden Flower (1/0)
+291 acres: Soylent Green (2/0)
+224 acres: Clear and Present Danger (1/0)
+224 acres: Purple Rain (1/0)
+120 acres: The Blue Lagoon (1/0)
+91 acres: Black Hawk Down (1/0)
-23 acres: A Clockwork Orange (2/2)
-48 acres: Meet Joe Black (1/2)
-103 acres: Red Dawn (1/2)
-110 acres: The Black Stallion (1/1)
-155 acres: The Red Pony (1/2)
The Kingdom of Vengeance
Total acres exchanged: -2967 acres (9/22)
+151 acres: Sol Invictus (4/2)
-69 acres: Liberalitas (2/2)
-91 acres: Inuus (0/1)
-158 acres: Janus (3/5)
-224 acres: Nodotus (0/1)
-301 acres: CaRna (0/1)
-344 acres: Honos (0/2)
-396 acres: Viduus (0/2)
-406 acres: Mantus (0/1)
-526 acres: Uranus (0/2)
-603 acres: Hercules (0/3)
War summary Harmony HaJ and Vengeance
Total Attacks Made: 433 (53472 acres)
-- Traditional March: 401 (52405 acres)
-- Conquest: 6 (399 acres)
-- Ambush: 7 (668 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (33 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 18 (4.2% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 493 (43116 acres)
-- Traditional March: 437 (39963 acres)
-- Ambush: 24 (3095 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (58 acres)
-- Plunders: 1
-- Failed Attacks: 30 (6.1% failure)
The Kingdom of Harmony HaJ
Total acres exchanged: +10356 acres (433/493)
+1621 acres: A Clockwork Orange (28/10)
+1616 acres: The Red Pony (17/10)
+1592 acres: Curse of the Golden Flower (18/11)
+1568 acres: Soylent Green (15/7)
+1496 acres: The Black Stallion (19/2)
+1404 acres: The Color Of Magic (20/17)
+1350 acres: Purple Rain (25/25)
+1206 acres: Meet Joe Black (23/8)
+1146 acres: Red Dawn (25/22)
+892 acres: Anonymous province (2/0)
+724 acres: The Blue Lagoon (14/13)
+351 acres: Devil in a Blue Dress (6/0)
+345 acres: Hunt for Red October (10/8)
+115 acres: The Curse of the Black Pearl (11/0)
+50 acres: Clear and Present Danger (23/48)
+43 acres: The Green Mile (6/1)
-87 acres: The Red Shoes (0/1)
-163 acres: Black Death (0/1)
-200 acres: Goldmember (30/55)
-204 acres: Ultraviolet (0/1)
-263 acres: Crimson Tide (0/2)
-319 acres: White Men Cant Jump (30/36)
-501 acres: Black Hawk Down (29/37)
-901 acres: Blue Crush (16/22)
-1009 acres: Dorian Gray (38/72)
-1516 acres: Men In Black Men (28/84)
The Kingdom of Vengeance
Total acres exchanged: -10447 acres (493/433)
+2313 acres: Ceres (32/0)
+1887 acres: 4inher (26/1)
+1642 acres: Anonymous province (7/0)
+1596 acres: Poena (17/0)
+1283 acres: Aries (20/0)
+958 acres: Venus (8/1)
+774 acres: Somnus (16/0)
+356 acres: Viduus (19/9)
+288 acres: Mars (22/10)
+101 acres: Mutunus Tutunus (6/0)
-210 acres: Hercules (12/3)
-462 acres: 0pium (10/8)
-474 acres: Sol Invictus (19/8)
-551 acres: Inuus (0/3)
-582 acres: Uranus (26/15)
-827 acres: Nodotus (29/22)
-1076 acres: Janus (31/37)
-1261 acres: Baccus (21/19)
-1295 acres: Honos (25/35)
-1432 acres: Mantus (8/13)
-1461 acres: Liberalitas (6/13)
-1476 acres: CaRna (30/34)
-1482 acres: Arimanius (28/24)
-2225 acres: Aequitas (24/26)
-2232 acres: Mercury (23/32)
-4599 acres: Jupiter (28/120)