So, who's a Republican here?

[stoffi]

I've been watching the Republican presidential candidate elections and I've yet to see a candidate who is not the Christian version of the Ayatollah of Iran. Where some want to make gay's illegal, others want to make abortion illegal, yet some want to erase the Evolution Theory from School and others won't even pretend to go for a solution both parties can live with in the Middle East.

Are there ANY normal candidates on the Republican side or are they all fighting to be seen as a Christian Ayatollah or High Priest?

The US is becoming more and more a bastion of fanatism, much like Saudi Arabia and Iran. If you check, radical Islamists have all those same opinions as mentioned above. USA is becoming the Christian Iran. :-/ This is going in the wrong direction....

[Decibel]

Exactly my thoughts, some weird **** going on over there in the Republican base. It's like they're moving backwards instead of forward. Back to the middle ages where gay men and women should be slaughtered, small civilizations should be conquered and witches should be burned at the stake.

[BiGs]

lol ^ Sounds like Greenpeace philosophies about energy.

[Rockie Cantais]

I've been watching the Republican presidential candidate elections and I've yet to see a candidate who is not the Christian version of the Ayatollah of Iran. Where some want to make gay's illegal, others want to make abortion illegal, yet some want to erase the Evolution Theory from School and others won't even pretend to go for a solution both parties can live with in the Middle East.

Are there ANY normal candidates on the Republican side or are they all fighting to be seen as a Christian Ayatollah or High Priest?

The US is becoming more and more a bastion of fanatism, much like Saudi Arabia and Iran. If you check, radical Islamists have all those same opinions as mentioned above. USA is becoming the Christian Iran. :-/ This is going in the wrong direction....

'chuckle' I smell Troll.

Or is it a Bored Socialist Democrat?

[Rockie Cantais]

I will be more than happy to talk American Politics but drop the BS. Realize that we Americans don't view our politics like you in the European world do.

At this point 'ANYONE BUT OBAMA' will do nicely. I will say this I'm not happy with any of the GOP candidates and they all are talking like a bunch of Liberals while saying they are Conservatives. Ron Paul I like but on somethings hes crazy! Then there are is supporters and they are even more crazy! Like I said at this point 'ANYONE BUT OBAMA', within reason of course! 'chuckle'

[stoffi]

This is no where near a troll post, this is the world's honest opinion about USA. You vote for guys who have the same opinions as the Ayatollah of Iran, only they call themselves Christians rather than Muslims. Ron Paul is the only non-fanatic lunatic in the race, as he is not a religious fanatic, but rather an anarchist who will see USA crumble and fall down.

In 10-20-30 years, Iran, Saudi Arabia and USA might be 3 of the same, countries where religious fanatism rule, gays are outlawed and abortion is not allowed.

[Rockie Cantais]

This is no where near a troll post, this is the world's honest opinion about USA. You vote for guys who have the same opinions as the Ayatollah of Iran, only they call themselves Christians rather than Muslims. Ron Paul is the only non-fanatic lunatic in the race, as he is not a religious fanatic, but rather an anarchist who will see USA crumble and fall down.

In 10-20-30 years, Iran, Saudi Arabia and USA might be 3 of the same, countries where religious fanatism rule, gays are outlawed and abortion is not allowed.

Sound like a Troll post, post a hostile post against a group to incite a hostile reaction. NO TACT, at all in that post and you sounded more how should I say very one sided and extremely opinionated. Ron Paul who I like and has some very Great ideas is still a nut job! 'chuckle'.

[stoffi]

Sound like a Troll post, post a hostile post against a group to incite a hostile reaction. NO TACT, at all in that post and you sounded more how should I say very one sided and extremely opinionated. Ron Paul who I like and has some very Great ideas is still a nut job! 'chuckle'.

I also criticise Iran and Saudia Arabia. I guess they would respond in a similar matter.

USA is no longer a democracy as we know it. Big corps can dictate what they want, rich, white men win the elections based on who's more patriotic or not, etc.

USA veto'ed the fact that too much sugar makes you fat.... Just one example how big corps get what they want.


In many ways, Ron Paul is a good guy, but he's stuck in 1776 on Jefferson's side.


Further on, religion and politics should never go hand in hand.

[Topsy]

Religion will never be removed from politics. First because in "democracies" politicians are supposed to reflect the needs, opinions, and aspirations of their constituencies, and religion is incredibly important to such constituency. And Secondly, and more importantly, because it is perhaps impossible to think about power as circulated through something as large as a nation-state without using inherited terms and understandings from religious considerations. Whether its the "free-marker" of the Ron Pauls, the concepts of "rights", "equality" and "fairness" of the Obamas, or the "God" of the Huckabees, we'll always be stuck in the confines of overwrought generalizations and conflations through which political evaluations will be determined.

That being said, I'd rather know if I am emotionally invested in something a politician supports, than disassociate myself from the feelings i have as to those things important to me and pretend like we already have the perfect way of analyzing and implementing those rationally manifest ways of doing politics/policy.

Edit: Also, as to this idea that the US is just now becoming a non-democracy, it was the very intent of the founders of the country to disempower the people from their "collective capacity to rule"(as Madison says during the federalist debates) so that "rich, white men" could rule.

/not a republican, btw

[Killthemall]

I also criticise Iran and Saudia Arabia. I guess they would respond in a similar matter.

USA is no longer a democracy as we know it. Big corps can dictate what they want, rich, white men win the elections based on who's more patriotic or not, etc.

USA veto'ed the fact that too much sugar makes you fat.... Just one example how big corps get what they want.


In many ways, Ron Paul is a good guy, but he's stuck in 1776 on Jefferson's side.


Further on, religion and politics should never go hand in hand.

First off you are wrong on the democracy part. we have never been a democracy country we are a Republic Country there is a difference. and the fact that we have parties is wrong.

moving on

Ron Paul is a wild man. Obama is a puppet of the socializam movement that has been going on in this country from the time long before i was alive. they just now got an idiot in office. which should be removed from office the comming election. Romney is who the Obama's want to run against not Gingrich which is the better choice. but the democrats will find something on him to get him knocked out cause if they don't he will win by an landslide. so all and all if Obama runs agains Romney then Obama wins against the wishy washy guy. but if he runs against Gingrich then Obama will fall. that is why the democratic party does not get Romney in any kind of debate they let him be and hit Gingrich with alll the bashes. cause he is the one they worrie about.

[Topsy]

I can almost guarantee you that noone in the DNC or the Obama Campaign has Gingrich as the guy they would least like to see. The man is not a very good politician, and has incredibly high unfaivorable ratings. Like most elections in which there is a strong incumbant with a huge war chest, the potentially good candidates seem to be sitting this one out.

[Meeni]

I'm middle of the road and vote for who I think will be a better president.

I voted for Obama last time since I thought he was a good leader (in that he picked a great team) but in the end when his vote mattered he was not decisive enough on timely matters (MAJOR MAJOR foreign policy issues, for example). Many of my friends who normally vote Republican went for Obama as well since McCain showed us all that he does NOT know how to assemble a team or make good decisions.

If nominated, my vote is for Romney this year.

Romney having led a company whose job is to cut fat and make the hard decisions will be successful at it if he gets the nod for the Republicans. Social issues don't change fast enough anyway without the justice dept, and Romney has shown to be relatively liberal anyways.

[Rockie Cantais]

I also criticise Iran and Saudia Arabia. I guess they would respond in a similar matter.

USA is no longer a democracy as we know it. Big corps can dictate what they want, rich, white men win the elections based on who's more patriotic or not, etc.

I would say we are no longer a Representative Republic, that is not true either we are but its going to the way side because of the socialistic idea's and laws being pumped into the system. Interesting how we see the same problem but different causes. Ever wonder why we do that?

USA veto'ed the fact that too much sugar makes you fat.... Just one example how big corps get what they want.

I would say that is big Government trying to control our lives and it was stopped.

In many ways, Ron Paul is a good guy, but he's stuck in 1776 on Jefferson's side.

That is a problem? We are not so much different from that time period even if we have much better toys now! The Constitution was designed to regulate Government much like you want to regulate big cooperation's. Both can get too big and too powerful.

Further on, religion and politics should never go hand in hand.

Without some sort of religion (matters not the type) politics gets out of hand.

[stoffi]

I would say we are no longer a Representative Republic, that is not true either we are but its going to the way side because of the socialistic idea's and laws being pumped into the system. Interesting how we see the same problem but different causes. Ever wonder why we do that?

Now we're talking. :)

I'm not a socialist myself, I vote for a right wing semi conservative party in Norway. But in USA, even they would be considered socialist, if not communist.

I believe in freedom for the individual, but if you give the individual too much freedom, some individuals will seek to dominate other individuals and in the end take power for themselves. History shows this is every society and it's lead to the downfall an endless amount of societies. When ppl are allowed to do pretty much what they want with little government control, Rome falls. This was what happened to Rome btw, some individuals got rich and started dominating others. This lead to corruption, dictatorships, civil war and in the end, the downfall of Rome.

In a society, some people will succeed better than others and get rich. This is perfectly fine and how it should be. But what then when those rich people start to bend the rules to their own benefit and seek to dominate others for their own personal gain?
Regulation is needed to avoid corruption and dictatorship. USA is already run through with LEGAL corruption(lobbyists) and certain powerful companies dictating state policies.

So how is it that socialist Europe has so many blooming democracies like Norway?

I would say that is big Government trying to control our lives and it was stopped.

Okay.... But big government was chosen by you, and big company overruled your voice. Big company seeks only to increase their profits and don't care about you. Wouldn't you rather see millions of people avoid getting deceases like Diabetes or have decreased life quality because of obesity? Obesity is not a choice in large parts of the US because the most exposed groups don't know any better, they are plain ignorant.

That is a problem? We are not so much different from that time period even if we have much better toys now! The Constitution was designed to regulate Government much like you want to regulate big cooperation's. Both can get too big and too powerful.

The difference is that you have a lot more rich people today seeking to dominate you and me, so you would only replace a democratically elected government who theoretically seeks to help you with big corps who only want to keep their profits up.

Without some sort of religion (matters not the type) politics gets out of hand.

Oh? How so? Only USA, Iran, Saudi Arabia and other muslim countries combine religion and politics like you do. Sure we have religious parties in most western countries in the world, but they are still rather secular and usually not in power. Europe is secularising, Muslim countries and USA are going the opposite direction, towards the medieval ages.




Nice post you had though, I like it.

[Drake]

It just politics in America really. They use social issues to gain votes. There are many people in America who would do much better off with the economic policies of a democratic candidate, however they can't vote for them because of their social views. Many will only vote for someone who is against gay marriage, or against abortion, or other more conservative social views. This is a political move to gain votes of a large base of Americans. Many who have strong religious views are actually in the lower economic class and are voting only on the social aspects of candidates rather then whats actually 'best' for them.

Politics changes all the time and it is always about picking the topics to gain the most votes or cause the most damage to the other side. You didn't hear about the debt increase during the 8 years Bush was president, but when Obama used Keynesian economics to help the economy all you heard about was the amount of debt. It works to scare people and create fights and use this to your advantage. Everyone understood the debt ceiling had to be raised but using the leverage gets things you want in politics and hurts the other side.

Politics is best when you can scare people. Iran, Iraq, Debt, Religion, and Economy are all great methods of scaring people into believing that the other guy is doing a bad job. I would have to say though that Republicans have a much better strategic team then Democrats typically do. They are much better at getting their message out and pushing social issues to secure certain demographics and states. Some of the poorest states vote for people who in-turn vote for things that help big businesses and hurt their own interests. How you get people to vote against their own good has been a strength of Republicans for years and its predicated on using fear (at least for the last 30 years)