Breaking War Terms

[Glimi]

I am curious what others think of this situation.

Kingdom A scouted Kingdom B
While still deciding if Kingdom B was the best option

Kingdom B PM'd Kingdom A the following:

"We are looking for a war to start the engines again. We've had some problems with defections and inactivity ever since new year and we just need a good old bash to get things going again I think.
What do you say?"

Kingdom A replied with:
"hehe. you sir have awesome/funny timing.
We just started to grab intel to wave you so yes. We're interested."

Kingdom B replied to that with:
"LOL! What a coinsidence! Let's keep it a nice clean war with no province killing and no help from ourside. What do you say to that? :-)"

Kingdom A accepted with:
"Sounds good. We are a fun bunch anyway."

War started within 12hrs - Kingdom B's chain target was obvious and focused the majority of the attacks on a single target. Kingdom A went with multiple chain targets.

After 48 or so hours Kingdom B killed their single chain target.

This prompted a heated discussion in the war forums.

Kingdom A started the discussion with:
"I guess that means we can use outside help."

Kingdom B replied with:
"He should have released it was his own fault he did not have to die that was his choice"

and

"I would advise against having outsiders attack into war.

That being said, the death of the province was actually an accident. Even at 300 acres, he remained a threat to our mid-range provinces and we would not give up a free 600~ acres just because he didn't know when to politely step out, depop and rebuild. Was your alternative just to concede some pity acres because he suicided?"

and

"In this scenario, it's reasonable that any rational kingdom would have acted as we did. What's actually happening here is you're grasping at straws and ignoring context intentionally, which is actually an abhorrant move on your part."


Thoughts?

[Palem]

lol @ war terms


It's war. Kill each other.

[Judge]

Its a farm war!!!!!

[Topsy]

Sounds like you should teach your KD-mate how to take chains.

[I_am_Spartacus]

It looks like there's 2 provinces in your war who aren't hitting eachother (they can't break eachother) but that doesn't matter. I'm going to report them for fake warring.

[ZodZilla]

Also those war terms constitute a Fake War, in regards to the "no province killing" rules. If provinces aren't allowed to be hit under certain agreed upon circumstances, is that not a conditional nap during a war? Bishop, power up that deletion cannon!

For serious.

[Palem]

Knock it off guys.

[ZodZilla]

Is that not logically fair? It has already been stated that letting up on opponents before a war is over constitutes FW. How is agreeing not to hit provs below a certain level any different?

[Korp]

And here i thought attacking someone was agressive ..

[I_am_Spartacus]

Also those war terms constitute a Fake War, in regards to the "no province killing" rules. If provinces aren't allowed to be hit under certain agreed upon circumstances, is that not a conditional nap during a war? Bishop, power up that deletion cannon!

For serious.

Is that not logically fair? It has already been stated that letting up on opponents before a war is over constitutes FW. How is agreeing not to hit provs below a certain level any different?

Very good points.

[Palem]

Is that not logically fair? It has already been stated that letting up on opponents before a war is over constitutes FW. How is agreeing not to hit provs below a certain level any different?

Are you honestly asking the difference between not hitting a prov below a point and not hitting a prov?

[DHaran]

If he died at 300 acres it's his own fault, they didn't "kill him", he just failed at living, lol.

[ZodZilla]

Are you honestly asking the difference between not hitting a prov below a point and not hitting a prov?

Absolutely I am. By extension, are terms of "can't hit provs below 1000 acres" acceptable, or deletion worthy? It's damn hard to tell at the moment. Like I said, it was recently decreed that letting up on opponents at all in a war constitutes FW... it's one of the few clear definitions that has been made on the subject.

[Palem]

Being hit down to 50 acres blows. It's not fun and no one wants to fight out from it. It's a matter of courtesy, not of someone gaining an unfair benefit.
Not hitting a prov is precisely someone gaining an unfair benefit.

Stop being an ass.

[I_am_Spartacus]

Being hit down to 50 acres blows. It's not fun and no one wants to fight out from it. It's a matter of courtesy, not of someone gaining an unfair benefit.
Not hitting a prov is precisely someone gaining an unfair benefit.

Stop being an ass.

What if you can't break that province? Is that a delete worthy offense?