Originally Posted by
stoffi
I'm glad to see you are not that naive.
It IS harder to succeed in the US than in most other Western countries, thus robbing the country of its former slogans saying how easy it is to be selfmade. Upwards mobility can be extremely difficult in the US, unlike e.g. Norway where everyone got the same chances of education and NON-poverty(except if your parents are heroin addicts/plain bad).
So yeah, it is a MYTH that the US is so much easier to make it in than in other countries. I'd never work in the US ever because of the poor employment conditions(and that's often the general opinion), and I will soon be having a MA in English and a teacher's license.
Caaaaalm down....
22% of all children in the US grow up in poverty, yes, and it would seem as if your ignorance is coming out here. Poor by US standards, not African standards. And in Africa, even the poor got cell phones... Also, as I said, millions of millions of Americans work several jobs, they work around the clock and they spend their money on FOOD for their family. Your picture of the poor man in the US has no roots in reality, you live in the 19th century claiming the poor waste aaaaall their money on luxury goods and are poor because they "choose to be".
I reckon you are around 16-20 years old or something, but my advice to you is to go to University when you are old enough and volunteer for a poor-aid program or something, so that you may see how it really is.
Keep your legs closed you say, but the Republicans are against prevention and abortions. Prevention and abortion is quite possibly the best crime/poverty fighter out there because most of the babies aborted are "unwanted" and for a reason. Around 15-20 years after the US made abortion legal, huge results on the crime statistics were seen, as in Australia and Romania as well.
The US economy is in as much negative balance as certain European countries, but can survive it much better.
1) Get your facts straight. The top 5% pay 58.7%(2009) of all income taxes. That just goes to show the huge social differences that exist in the US, a class divided society reminding us about the UK early 20th century. (If you know anything about that)
50% pay very little because they don't earn much money. I was hoping that would ring some bells with you, but apparently not....
2) That's just how it is, and why prevention and abortion must be made available. It will cost less to give it freely than to let the children be born into poverty and crime. It's that like here as well, people coming from poor conditions are often the ones getting babies early.
3) Well, those poor people aren't just going to sit on their arses all day long. They will get jobs(jobs paying more than 6 dollars, which is useless), commit less crime due to less need and their children will get a much, much better start to society and have a much better chance of growing up to be something else than a trailer trash criminal.
Yes, the Buffet tax. He never paid 33% tax, his company did and the money stays with company. If he wants money from the company, he should pay normal taxes like everyone else.
I'm just glad I wasn't born into a lower half American family. I would never be able to go to University and make something out of myself and I would probably end up in some poor arse 6 dollars per hour job, if even that, whilst living in a trailer or a dump.
Also, fix your attitude. You strike me as a young, angry boy who lacks the ability to debate. Stop calling people names, stop using caps, stop debating like a 12 year old.
Not all ofc, but numbers don't lie. Just a few years ago, there was a survey amongst FOX NEWS viewers whether or not they believed Iraq had WMD's. This was many years after the invasion ofc, only a few years ago. Somewhere around 2/3 thought Iraq had WMD's....
Hail ignorance and they seem to vote Republican.
It's true enough for Norwegian media to print it in newspapers. Also, as I said before this, other surveys suggest the very same thing, 50% of Americans aren't very bright.
Also, please prove YOUR claims. In addition, youtube is no source unless the video is made by a credible source.
Ofc Americans care about religion. A poll about presidential candidates showed that the WORST possible thing a presidential candidate could be was ATHEIST, which was worse than being gay. (And let's face it, many, many republicans hate gays really bad) Also, the republican presidential campaign can be summarised in 3 words, God, Gays and Guns. It seems to be a competition in who is the most Christian.
So yeah, religion is essential.
Keeping people in poverty will only limit yourselves. Let their children have a real chance to grow up and be something and you will see a huge difference benefitting everyone, even the rich.
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