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    a nuclear attack in your lifetime?

    Anyone think they will see a nuclear attack during their lifetime? Seems unavoidable with all the crazies but who knows
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    This may be my least funded post to date:

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    There will never be another nuke dropped unless we are throwing them at alien invaders. The consequences are too great.
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    Too many countries with nukes.

    Any country who launches nukes at this point will give several other countries justification to launch nukes at them.

    So no, unless they figure out an ultra stealth "can't figure who launched the darn thing" system for nukes, it won't happen.

    But then, they'd also need to completely leak-proof the entire administration responsible for launching the nukes and I don't think even Harper, our propaganda control-freak, could pull something like that off.

    At this point, I'd worry more about peak oil and climate change than the nukes.
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    Biggest danger is instability in russia while it still maintains too many nukes to keep an easy eye on(which luckily is decreasing rapidly due to recent treaties made with the US). The bureaucracies overseeing their maintenance are not like bureaucracies in most other developed countries, and it would be very easy for a few to be sold to non-state actors.

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    its not nukes you have to worry about much. terrorists are not likely to get ahold of something deployable. its not likely a country will use them do to retaliation. even if some nut job got ahold of one deployment isnt eazy. they emit radiation and can be tracked by satellites therefore would also need a weapon sytem to use it.the science behind building a nuclear weapon from scratch is way out of reach for most countries. heavy water reactors are a pain to build even for a industrial country.

    wouldnt worry about nuclear weapons much unless north korea wants to use one

    the big threat is chemical/biological weapons. there is no way to track them til they have been used.terrorist could eazly get ahold of some and it wouldn't take any kind of hightech weapon system to deploy it. a home made artillery shell would be enough. 2lbs of anthrax detonated over N.Y.C would kill over 200,000 people.once the choas ensues i dont think most will make it to get vaccinated.

    oh yah not to mention there are enough weapons in pinebluff AR it will take the millitary 25 years to destroy them all.i think this maybe real low russia had over 150,000 lbs of anthrax as it is

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    I picked yes. But im at a 60/40. It just takes 1 fanatic in the right place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magn View Post
    So no, unless they figure out an ultra stealth "can't figure who launched the darn thing" system for nukes,
    didn't the U.S. lose one of their stealth planes recently? ;)

    there are numerous historic lessons about how empires won and lost with the accidental spread of technology, the most famous example is the first punic war:

    http://www.unrv.com/empire/first-punic-war.php

    or how the romans got their quinquiremes

    I don't see stealth technology as making that much of difference though. However it might not be an accident, but a trick, similar to how the Canadians sold faulty and rigged nuclear technology to the Russians in the cold war, which caused a nuclear explosion in Siberia. Anyhow all will be revealed eventually, I'm quite sure of that. Even if it were a trick, it would only delay the inevitable.

    However stealth technology does not disguise intent and motive, so dharans point of Mutual Assured Destruction is more important than technology, but like I said, some people don't care about the consequences. MAD is not a deterrent for messianic psychopaths with delusions of grandeur. Moreover the mask of sanity and manipulation of psychopaths has fooled more people before. The most famous example of that being Neville Chamberlain. But I'm willing to bet, that me being prophetic will fall on deaf ears for a lot of people here, as there quite a number of little Chamberlains running around on these here boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    There will never be another nuke dropped unless we are throwing them at alien invaders. The consequences are too great.


    Really you think Pakistan Indian Iran isreal give a **** about that ?


    I don't think there will ever be a nuke dropped by a elected government in my life time ...... Some nutta might do a dirty bomb but I doubt it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlin View Post
    I don't think there will ever be a nuke dropped by a elected government in my life time ......
    You realize the Nazi regime was an elected gov't body right? Not only were they elected but they were incredibly popular.



    That said I would be very surprised if there was a nuclear attack just because of the consequences that would inevitably follow. It would make the Dark Ages look like a high point of humanities history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    You realize the Nazi regime was an elected gov't body right? Not only were they elected but they were incredibly popular.


    Um yes I do know they where an elected government but they didn't drop the bomb that was the Americans


    And I wasn't born then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlin View Post
    Um yes I do know they where an elected government but they didn't drop the bomb that was the Americans
    That wasn't my point. My point is that it's not impossible for unstable leaders with goals of MASSIVE death to get into power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlin View Post
    Um yes I do know they where an elected government but they didn't drop the bomb that was the Americans


    And I wasn't born then
    Well, the main reason that Americans developed our bombs was because Germany was developing nuclear weapons as well. Fortunately, the Nazis never got finished with theirs, but they were the spark for the Allies' Manhattan Project.

    Anyhow, the world has a history of unstable and brutal people coming into power. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Nero, and Antiochus Ephphanes just to name a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHaran View Post
    There will never be another nuke dropped unless we are throwing them at alien invaders. The consequences are too great.
    some people don't care about the consequences

    I see it as more likely that a nuke will be dropped in our lifetime than discovering life on another planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by freemehul View Post
    I see it as more likely that a nuke will be dropped in our lifetime than discovering life on another planet
    Only because science doesn't get the funding it should.

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