and add to that, hope that top 20 doesnt use you as food. I.e. its a totally different type of gamestyle in top 20 versus below.
and add to that, hope that top 20 doesnt use you as food. I.e. its a totally different type of gamestyle in top 20 versus below.
Just 10m? No wonder they're all so bad. Can't even afford to convert.
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faster you grow the fatter your economy.. Alot of players think you have to pump your province to 150% before you grow in land which isn't true! just keep land coming in and keep focus on your economy doesn't matter if your draft is at 70% or 50%. Once you reach your target acrage stop and turtle for a day or two and then continue to grow fat and fast! You'll be surprised how much faster you can grow at 150Nwpa compated to 175-180..
it matters if your draft is 50% or 70% when growing becasue its how safely u can grow and how the kd wants you to grow. if your sitting at 55% draft and your kd isnt a threat u can bet u will get vultured on, thats a big deal if you were told to grow from 700-1200 acres and expected to get there "soon" while being 100% ready if your kd gets waved for war. Top 15 kds might not have that issue simply becasue there isnt as many kds up there and the chance of geting waved is more rare, but
a 60-65% draft is required if u want to "grow" in the top 50 and be safe/semi war ready at all times.
Heck a decent draft rate & nw/acres is required even if u dont want to be war ready. E.x. it should be easy to see that u cant grow at 150 nw/acre if u take a look at targetfinder.eu. Say your one of the larger hitters in your top 50 nw kd's and your looking to grow/plunder/whatever just hit. Lets put the nw u want to be hitting into at the 250-300k range. Via the targetfinder you do a search for Nw 250k-300k, KD nw<5 million (so your somewhat safe in the kd u hit), not in war, not in fortified stance (max gains). That leaves u with 254 people u can hit, of which only 9 have a nw/acre<160.
It's because you're a faery, and all your teammates are faeries. If you were an orc, and you had 20 other orcs in your kd, then you can grow fat or whatever at peace by just keeping good opa, and doing good diplo.
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We grew into the top 30 without any coordination or really much effort or skill/experience with growing.
Defending our acres isn't the problem. Growing fast enough is the problem...
You can probably get more speed if you get 25 full players. That, good coordination, and diplo is probably the solution.
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Draft rate. Your a faery with no attackers, the only thing that makes you not get hit is keeping a high draft rate. Top KD's generally in non hostile situations are fairly fat. = Big income.
I could see an all faery KD being ok to grow into top 15 by EoA. Just because I do believe you could landlust enough in a hostile to make it not worth the effort of retal warring you. Of course in any war you would quickly be farmed out...
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Hahah, very true. Although "get into" isn't exactly correct -- more like begged and bent over backwards for someone to war us. I really don't know how we got that big while actively begging for a war. I mean, yeah, we got some attention from some big Kingdoms that could have fed on us, and it was by their good graces that they were respectful enough to back off. What amazes me is that so many Kingdoms ran away or declined to war us.
But to the topic, our faster growth earlier in the age had, I think, a lot to do with the timing of it. I really don't think people will let 150 NW/A go at our size any longer. It's going to be slow, measured growth from here on out I'd say.
Last edited by Mary Lennox; 05-04-2012 at 13:05.
People dont want to give you ops cos you can hit fortified and LL them, thats why you were allowed to grow.
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