Legalize Marijuana?

[CannaWhoopazz]

I think it's legal to grow your own tobacco, but there are stipulations on it still I think... I remember my father (old farmer) talking about full-time tobacco farmers not being able to use their own crop though I think.

I don't really like the idea of growing your own pot as being legal though. Growing the crop for smoking should be done only on licensed farms.

[Hurlin]

In Australia it is illegal to grow tobacco ..... and the fines and jail time where three time higher then pot .... that might have changed but I doubt it.

[CannaWhoopazz]

not the most persuasive argument with "pandora's box."

This is a discussion, so WHY will legalizing pot be like opening Pandora's Box? You really think crack-addicts will be clamoring for the legalization of crack? I find that laughable!

The fact is, and there's NO way to deny this, pot isn't a hard-core drug. Taking my Adderall without eating something gets me higher for longer than my roommate after a single joint. It's not like crack or heroin where you would do ANYTHING to get more of it. My roommate takes at least a hit every day (especially if he has a lot of studying, says it helps him concentrate), and when he runs out he'll go weeks at a time without smoking any.

[Korp]

Godwin's Law is a dumb conversation deterrent that is usually given when you don't have more worthwhile rebutal to propose.

So is bringing up dictatorships :)

[nooblet]

Not sure but I think with taxes tobacco is probably more expensive dose-for-dose than marijuana in most US states, assuming a stable and reliable connection. Not that it has any real bearing, just an thing I have observed, even with the illegality of marijuana. So again, the growers and distributors mostly don't care... if they go to prison, they have their allies in the system to protect them, and often are treated with extreme lenience by the court system if they have the correct connections. The drug war is a joke in large part because no one involved really wants to fight it... just like prohibition, there was far more incentive for law enforcement to ally with bootleggers. Ultimately the movers behind prohibition and the drug war are mostly interested in dictating who can and who can't have access, rather than stamping out a vice entirely... you never hear of middle- or upper-class, educated members of society receiving much punishment for drug violations, and it's well established that the legal system bends over backwards to protect such people. The drug war is just another extension of class war, and is fought mostly so that the upper classes can have their priveliged access. If it were fought in a way to seriously stamp out the drug trade, the cartels' activity in the US at least would be crushed within a decade, considering the funding and police powers that are held by the government.

[Agronaut]

well the statistic that showed so many pot users is controlled. they dont point out who was high and who wasnt by showing the levels in thier systems. pot can stay in your system for a month that dosnt mean they were high at the time of the crash.

people are missing the bigger picture, pot is a gate way drug. by making it legal you remove most of that and the kids will have less chance of comming into contect with it. i know most are looking at that and saying "what". simple when i was a teen it was much eazyer to get weed then booze. i had to find someone to buy me booze but could get weed on my own. the big thing with kids is they have to go to drug dealers to get it. after a few sales its in the dealers best intrest to get the kid to try harder drugs turning them into addicts .that what happend to alot of my friends they moved on to meth and the dealers were normaly the same guys.

alot of the government pot reasearch is based by this guy and he was disbarred over it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDTAqVIpfk

even the tests that were not completly bogus were set up to get bad results. some tests were done on the basis of 30 to 60 joints of high grade weed a day. i dont think anyone could smoke that and live
most of you old timers that have a problem with it have been brainwashed by the government with movies like refermadness. ever watch that one were they show the white woman being raped by black guys because she got high.

if the anti pot lobby wants to argue that it shouldnt be legalised then come up with a real argument. drug control needed to be done because it was way out of control. he could be heroin and cocaine could be bought the same way aspirin was bought
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hell back then even coca cola hade cocaine in it, so yah things needed to be done but they went to far
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[Bishop]

Coca Cola did not have cocaine in it :/

[DHaran]

Coca Cola did not have cocaine in it :/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Co....80.93_cocaine

Coca-Cola once contained an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass. In 1903 it was removed.

[Bishop]

Cocaine is a distilled and refined product and is not in coca cola, nor was it ever. Just because they are created using the same product does not mean they are the same end result.

[DHaran]

Coca leaves are currently de-cocainized before use for flavoring. Prior to 1903 it wasn't. Coca cola contained cocaine. You can find 100 articles referencing cocaine as the ingredient in old Coca cola formulas, not coca leaves or coca extract, cocaine.

[Bishop]

Cocaine is a processed end result, its not naturally occurring. Wiki is wrong :p

[DHaran]

Cocaine is a processed end result, its not naturally occurring. Wiki is wrong :p

Cocaine is naturally occurring. It has to be processed into a form that can be administered into the bloodstream. That's why chewing coca leaves isn't efficient, because stomach acid just renders it inactive. It's still cocaine.

[peteyb22]

just a note on the original post:

Legalizing Marijuana would not only save California's state deficit problems, but it would probably make California the #1 economic state in the country... lol

[peteyb22]

ah! i messed up my post!

[Bishop]

If you legalise it the price of it will drop massively though.