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    The Truth about the Right in America

    As stated elsewhere I am a politician and an activist who is a Conservative in the Republican Party.

    I will tell you the truth about Conservatives, Libertarians, and what the Right is about.


    I know that many of you have heard us called, or have called us; Hicks, Hill Billies, Trailer Trash, Bigots, Racists, Wing Nuts, and many a more words designed to mock us or question our character.

    First we believe in the American Dream as thus defindd: "The ability for any individual to have the ability to rise and do as they see fit". There are many variations upon the wording but the intent is that anyone should be able to start a business and suceed as much as they want to.

    We do not see the rich as enemies because the rich, in general, are successful at providing people what they want. We also know what happens to the rich who make mistakes, they lose a lot of money. Take Oprah Winfrey for example, her OWN television station is failing and may soon lose the cable channel it is broadcast upon.

    We do not wish poverty upon anyone, we just see a different means to help them escape it and we feel it is far superior.

    We do not wish to force our religious views upon others for then they shall hate and despise us.

    We are nothing like you have been taught and lead to believe.


    Let me be clear, I like how an adopted child made a company that became a culture icon, one that currently vies as the most profitable business in the world. I like how his innovation made products that are in high demand, which made a new product trend and made him rich along the way. I do not despise Steve Jobs his success instead I revel in it since it has advanced us as a whole!

    I am a State's Rights man because I believe States should find a workable setting for their people and if it does not work the people can show it either in voting or in leaving the State.

    I believe Unions can still have a place but that a major reform must be done. Until the Unions accede and promote a reasonable change I to support Right to Work... Even though multiple employers have done bad things to me that they could not have gotten away with if I was in a Union.

    We believe in the Free Market and the benefits it provides. We do not believe in subsidies or controlled markets. Under a true Conservative Government you would not have the Government buying cheese to keep the prices high and placing it in warehouses... as is currently happening.

    A true Conservative does care for the environment but also will not support lies and false efforts. See surfacestations dot org for evidence global warming is false. We will not support a false ideology designed to make new rich people with a scam.

    As the Weeks roll into Months and the Months into Years you will see all this and more covered.

    I am out of many liberal activist's league, for I carry the light of truth, as well as experience as an activist and politician. If you wish to debate I will rejoice, if you wish to slander I will show you up, if you wish to troll I will throw a book at you, and if you lie I will bring the truth.


    Game on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CREinstein View Post
    As stated elsewhere I am a politician and an activist who is a Conservative in the Republican Party.

    I will tell you the truth about Conservatives, Libertarians, and what the Right is about.


    I know that many of you have heard us called, or have called us; Hicks, Hill Billies, Trailer Trash, Bigots, Racists, Wing Nuts, and many a more words designed to mock us or question our character.

    First we believe in the American Dream as thus defindd: "The ability for any individual to have the ability to rise and do as they see fit". There are many variations upon the wording but the intent is that anyone should be able to start a business and suceed as much as they want to.

    We do not see the rich as enemies because the rich, in general, are successful at providing people what they want. We also know what happens to the rich who make mistakes, they lose a lot of money. Take Oprah Winfrey for example, her OWN television station is failing and may soon lose the cable channel it is broadcast upon.

    We do not wish poverty upon anyone, we just see a different means to help them escape it and we feel it is far superior.

    We do not wish to force our religious views upon others for then they shall hate and despise us.

    We are nothing like you have been taught and lead to believe.


    Let me be clear, I like how an adopted child made a company that became a culture icon, one that currently vies as the most profitable business in the world. I like how his innovation made products that are in high demand, which made a new product trend and made him rich along the way. I do not despise Steve Jobs his success instead I revel in it since it has advanced us as a whole!

    I am a State's Rights man because I believe States should find a workable setting for their people and if it does not work the people can show it either in voting or in leaving the State.

    I believe Unions can still have a place but that a major reform must be done. Until the Unions accede and promote a reasonable change I to support Right to Work... Even though multiple employers have done bad things to me that they could not have gotten away with if I was in a Union.

    We believe in the Free Market and the benefits it provides. We do not believe in subsidies or controlled markets. Under a true Conservative Government you would not have the Government buying cheese to keep the prices high and placing it in warehouses... as is currently happening.

    A true Conservative does care for the environment but also will not support lies and false efforts. See surfacestations dot org for evidence global warming is false. We will not support a false ideology designed to make new rich people with a scam.

    As the Weeks roll into Months and the Months into Years you will see all this and more covered.

    I am out of many liberal activist's league, for I carry the light of truth, as well as experience as an activist and politician. If you wish to debate I will rejoice, if you wish to slander I will show you up, if you wish to troll I will throw a book at you, and if you lie I will bring the truth.


    Game on!
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    @CREinstein:

    My post won't be as long winded as yours (or maybe it will be).

    My political views are best described as a socialist/capitalist mix (center left if you prefer).

    While, like you, I think that private businesses are one of the best ways to promote entrepreneurship and innovation, I think they need help along the way to force them to remain useful to the society in which they function.

    For starters, while some think that a strong safety net would hinder businesses (higher taxes) as a whole, I disagree.

    I think a strong safety net breaks monopolies (and encourage innovation and diversity), by:

    a) Injecting wealth back into society as a whole instead of concentrating it in few places (assuming a progressive tax system is implemented rather than a flat one)

    b) Putting fewer obstacles in the path of startups who might not be profitable for some time and making them less reliant on outside capital (and control)

    Furthermore, I think there are some parts of the economy that are just too darn important to be left in private hands.

    For example. if someone gets a monopoly on electricity production, he could use his monopoly to hijack the economy by charging crazy rates for electricity.

    Also, I think that natural ressources (mines, forestry, etc) are the property of the people as a whole and should be exploited uniquely by the state (which should get 100% of the profits from the exploitation). That private hands are making significant (sometimes, the lion's share) profits exploiting what is essentially a public ressource is a travesty to me. Reasonably, the private sector could subcontract labor and equipment, but the decision making (how much to extra, what price to set, etc) should be the government's alone.

    Also, that banks are private is equally a travesty for me. Because of their critical role in the economy, banks can never go bankrupt so it is a guaranteed cash cow for the owners. This is against the core principles of how private enterprise should function. So since they don't follow the rules of how a private business should function, they shouldn't be private.
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    Jesus christ, the Tea Party movement supports people like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann. Fanatical lunatics, comparable only with Islamists in the middle east. Not to mention highly ignorant about everything else than the US.

    Here's some quotes from Bachmann:

    1."I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending." –Rep. Michele Bachmann, suggesting at a presidential campaign event in Florida that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God (Aug. 2011)

    2. "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too" -Rep. Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. (June 2011)

    3. "I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter." –Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), on the HPV vaccine, Fox News interview, Sept. 12, 2011

    4. "Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, recalling in a 2006 speech at a Megachurch in Minneapolis that pursuing tax law wasn't her choice, but she did so at the urging of her husband because she was certain God was speaking through him

    5. "I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?" -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, calling for a new McCarthyism, Oct. 2008

    6. "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009

    7. "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009

    8. "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." -Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005

    9. "But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.

    10. "Before we get started, let's all say 'Happy Birthday' to Elvis Presley today." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, while campaigning for president in South Carolina on what was actually the anniversary of Elvis's death, Aug. 16, 2011 (Elvis was born on January 8)


    And I won't even start to mention all the crazy opinions and quotes of Palin.


    What they all have in common is that they hate gays, are Christian fundamentalists and hate muslims. Not to mention they are rich elitists.


    Oh, and I'm a right winger in my country....
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    You're either with us or against us.... The retorics of a fool.


    In my eyes, Obama seems to want to do the right thing, he wants to help people, he's not a racist nor a fundamentalist, he actually wants what is best for non-rich people. No civilization lasts forever and the US is certainly on its way down, approaching 19th century thoughts very quickly. Long live religious lunatics.
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    The truth about the Tea Party is that it's a test to see how much bull**** Americans are willing to grant legitimacy. It's epic trolling at work... who the hell takes them seriously?

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    You be suprised how many dumm people are walking this earth...

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    It's not a matter of ordinary stupidity...

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    Ignorance?
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    The people leading the Tea Party aren't ignorant. They know exactly what they're doing - and laughing it up, that people are actually buying it.

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    You say you believe in free markets.

    How do you define "free market"

    I would define free markets as : those who are not subsidized or regulated by government.

    Question: Does America have free markets?

    My contention, due to the overwhelming nature of the Federal government are free markets even possible? Considering the vast subsidies we provide to certain industries as well as the foreign aid and trade agreements / regulations we provide to "bluster" those economies arn't free markets nothing more than a myth from the 1850s.

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    "free markets" have always been a total myth. next plz.

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    y u scare of dark people?


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    hmm... lots to think about

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    The truth about the right is that they're crazy. Crazy reps for crazy constituents. Sure there are some exceptions, but the Republican party appeals to bible-thumping, gun-toting, uneducated lunatics.

    Republicans are losing control because religion is losing control. Finally people have started to realize what lunatics they are when they say things like "God told me to run for President", and "God would prevent pregnancy in a rape victim if he wanted to". Bible-thumping no longer wins an election by itself, there are real life issues to face and intelligent people recognize that. The religious nutbags are still a force to be reckoned with and aren't going away for some generations to come, but their hold on government is waning.

    For example, nutbags like Todd Akin, now thankfully removed from the House and failed his bid for Senate:

    "Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child."

    This guy was on the House Science Committee.....
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