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    Sorry, I'm with Bishop on this and I am a US citizen. I also have a degree in CJ. Given the number of police officers country wide and compare the amount of corrupt officers the percentage is really really small.
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    "I do smoke weed recreationally and firmly believe it is my right to do so"

    Thanks for proving what i suspected was correct to begin with.

    Until this self proclaimed drug user actually rides in the front seat of a car and sees what 99% of the officers do daily that isnt in the news hes just rambling on with blanket propaganda and crazy accusations he has no idea about.

    The founding fathers also bought and sold slaves.So because they did that does that mean its also right and you should be able to do it also or are you just picking the ones you need for your argument ?
    Feel free to look that up.

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    Im sure you drink, If you ever blacked out you killed more brain cells that night then pot smoke would over a life time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thephatman View Post
    Im sure you drink, If you ever blacked out you killed more brain cells that night then pot smoke would over a life time.
    Not relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flutterby View Post
    Sorry, I'm with Bishop on this and I am a US citizen. I also have a degree in CJ. Given the number of police officers country wide and compare the amount of corrupt officers the percentage is really really small.
    like there is any statistics over how many corrupt police officials there are in US

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    yeah these guys are butt hurt. They have no points to make besides to flat out deny anything they don't like for w.e reason comes to mind 1st... IF THunder TA is a cop i think my point has been proved, he hardly commands the English language i can't imagine how he could even read the law let alone enforce it justly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder TA View Post
    "I do smoke weed recreationally and firmly believe it is my right to do so"

    Thanks for proving what i suspected was correct to begin with.

    Until this self proclaimed drug user actually rides in the front seat of a car and sees what 99% of the officers do daily that isnt in the news hes just rambling on with blanket propaganda and crazy accusations he has no idea about.

    The founding fathers also bought and sold slaves.So because they did that does that mean its also right and you should be able to do it also or are you just picking the ones you need for your argument ?
    Feel free to look that up.

    Bishop and Flutter, Thanks for the support BTW.
    What a laugh. WHat's the point to your obvious hyperbole? here's a list of the founding fathers that owned slaves and smoked pot, Notice how there is no correlation to pot use and slave ownership. The founding fathers also breathed air, drank alcohal and had sex with ladies. From your logic one could construe that these are immoral practices that we should cease. According to your arguement here anything the founding father did would be immoral b.c they also owned slaves?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...rs-and-Slavery
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...o_cannabis_use

    If you lived in these times and had money chances are you would have owned slaves. Morality is based on social norms, At the time slavery was an acceptable practice and in most cases was a non violent practice. The kind of slavery they show you in movies show you an extreme minority case. Most slaves owned their own property and raised families around them. In fact wage laborers were considered to lower the status of a man to that of an impressed seaman or slave. So it sounds to me like your talking out your ass.

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    You know TA for a "drug user" I seem to have a better command of language and logic than you. Try to make a point that's not so obviously full of ****. Need i remind you again that alcohol is a drug; by your logic i think everything you said is discredited regardless of the "merits" simply because you drink. If you don't drink, have you ever had an injury that requires pain medicine? if so thats a drug and your points are clearly wrong right? or maybe you smoked a cigarette once, yet another drug use. Ever been to the dentist? lol, Maybe you should have had half a wit when you thought up these rules.


    And Bishop, Come to USA and take a look around at night time, I've seen a cop full on punch a 17yr old kid in the face after he was pinned to the ground (kid was unarmed and was not charged or accused of any crime, his mistake was running while black.). You have made no points, No arguments here what so ever. Until such a time as you develop a one your off handed denials are meaningless. As far as I'm concerned your effort; lacking in any substance, only strengthens my point and emphasizes the weakness of your position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    Until such time as you show documented evidence to support your statement that "within the US it have become a common practice for law enforcement officers to violate the rights granted to us citizen through the Constitution" you just come across as a crank.

    ^^ difference.
    Clearly you are blind, or have issues operating hyper links. Several of the Youtubes i have linked contain court room testimony & mainstream news broadcasts which certainly count as "documented".

    heres a list of the check points i told you about that are permanent. Their operation is a violation of the bill of rights as they conduct searches w.o warrants and beat people there; much like free speech zone these areas have been declared constitution free zones.. I could go on, there are the cops who shoot ppl for holding cell phones and get PTO. There are the Rodney King beaters who have been promoted to command positions.

    There is the riot cop who threw a flash bang on a wounded marine crowded by medics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx036_m6HUA

    Or the guy tazered for asking a question in a public forum

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

    The cop who pepper sprayed protesters who were protesting legally under NYC law
    http://www.nyclu.org/content/know-yo...-new-york-city
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ05rWx1pig

    The police uphold the borders of "free speech zones" another direct violation of the constitution and their oath.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

    This cop checked a guy off his bike and lied about it on the record.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFTOttgaA0w
    he also avoided jail time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Uk9B0o1rM

    Heres 3 videos of cops tazing unarmed nonviolent elderly people
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yWaE8tTlsc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrGsefBbI-E
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPRrHYn3TiU

    Here is the Big Documentary again, it contains secuirty footage, new broadcast, courtroom testimony, and hand held recordings of police being violent with out any provocative act from the "victim" , committing felonies etc... One of them almost got away with rape and murder. IF he was a better cop he would have and none of us would have ever heard about it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmGW...BmPB0xsP-HVhEe

    Heres a little girl being tazered in the head. clearly you support this as honorable police activity .... ahahah, joke, i don't need to use these bull **** tactics like you guys.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o
    BTW running from the police is legal unless they inform you, that you are under arrest. the wording is different from state to state but feel free to check the municiple codes and see im correct.



    THe list is long it could be longer.... I can provide more evidence but i dont think you have seen what i submit already, clearly proving your closed minded attitude and ignorance on this topic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...or_Checkpoints


    AS the only person who has not relied entirely on ad hominem i declare myself the uncontested winner here. I defy anyone to address the evidence i have submitted and make arguments as to why so many police are allowed to violate their oath on a daily basis and not be considered corrupt. So far all I see is a buncha crying and no arguments. I look forward to licking up some more tears as i doubt any of you has the ability to challenge this evidence with out A, ignoring it, or B, making a personal attack against me to discredit it. Its called, an argument, Try it out ...here, get a clue, its on me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
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    Quote Originally Posted by thephatman View Post
    yeah these guys are butt hurt. They have no points to make besides to flat out deny anything they don't like for w.e reason comes to mind 1st... IF THunder TA is a cop i think my point has been proved, he hardly commands the English language i can't imagine how he could even read the law let alone enforce it justly..
    You talk down on someones language when you dont even know butthurt is one word, you spell first 1st? You apparently dont know how to argue since you attack the person instead of their arguments, go back to school and take some english lessons.


    AS the only person who has not relied entirely on ad hominem i declare myself the winner here. I defy anyone to address the evidence i have submitted and make arguments as to why so many police are allowed to violate their oath on a daily basis and not be considered corrupt.
    You just make stupid assumptions, you flip out some examples and then apply it on the whole police force. Just cause there is some idiots out there with a badge dont mean it become common pratice for law enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thephatman View Post
    Clearly you are blind, or have issues operating hyper links. Several of the Youtubes i have linked contain court room testimony & mainstream news broadcasts which certainly count as "documented".
    A few links does not show that it is common practise. Youtube is not documentation acceptable anywhere.

    I do not like the way you speak to me or other users of this forum. Have more respect if you wish to take part in this community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    A few links does not show that it is common practise. Youtube is not documentation acceptable anywhere.

    I do not like the way you speak to me or other users of this forum. Have more respect if you wish to take part in this community.

    If newsreport isnt good enough what is then? Visual evidence of person commtting the act should be the best documentation there is? Shouldnt you warn Thunder as well then or is it okey to be rude as long as you just imply rather than type it out in plain text?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    If newsreport isnt good enough what is then? Visual evidence of person commtting the act should be the best documentation there is? Shouldnt you warn Thunder as well then or is it okey to be rude as long as you just imply rather than type it out in plain text?
    Documented evidence of widespread police corruption as claimed would suffice, a few youtube clips will not.

    I don't have an issue with Thunders posts if i did i would say so, if you do have an issue with them then use the report button, otherwise mind your own business and do not attempt to backseat moderate. This is not a democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
    Documented evidence of widespread police corruption as claimed would suffice, a few youtube clips will not.

    I don't have an issue with Thunders posts if i did i would say so, if you do have an issue with them then use the report button, otherwise mind your own business and do not attempt to backseat moderate. This is not a democracy.

    But thats not what you wrote, what you did write was that I quote "Youtube is not documentation acceptable anywhere" So yet again I ask the same question can you please answer it this time?

    Apparently you have a issue of answering what people ask you and then pull out some random **** that nobody asked. If you call that above for backseat moderating you should learn what the word means. Lets try again, i was just asking what was considered acceptable behaviour. Its cute how you threaten people with your moderator powers when they dont agree with you.

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    No, i warn people when they violate the forum rules.

    Youtube is not documentation acceptable anywhere, you are refuting this? Even if it was, which it is not, single incidences in no way show widespread or commonality.
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    Freedom of speech zones and Check point search are common practice and they are corrupt practices that violate the constitution and the oaths the officers took to uphold it. DUNKED..... I used no personal attacks until they were use against me, Call me a crack pot with out points or an incredulous drug addict? Dismiss evidence our of hand? your butthurt, end of story, and I agree butthurt is one word but the spell checker here disagrees so i put a space to make the ugly red lines go away, OOPS. I guess a typo means the cops are all good right.

    Bishop and TA are small men with a small amount of power. Watch how they abuse it and fail to speak or act rationally.

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