Highest prop numbers

[Foul]

Well aware prop is very random.. Still curious, what is the highest conversion numbers you've seen on propaganda in each category pecs/wizzies/thieves? Please also post the size of your opponent and ~number of thieves sent if you remember.

The highest numbers I've seen is ~550 specs converted on a 4k dwarf.

[Persain]

650 specs on a 2k acre (~8k d specs)
30 wizards on a 900 wizards
115 thieves on 2000 thieves

[Notmatching]

Kicking up an old thread, sorry for that..

Highest I've done was(11k thieves for all):
961 specs on a 2k acre
168 wizards on a 1.8k acre
167 leets on a human 2k acre
257 thieves on a 1.6k acre

A good 48% stealth run (12h) usually gets me 2k to 3k specs
a few hundred elites and
gives me 1 rwpa per 48h
Covers the losses and sometimes adds up to 1rtpa per 48h

[csarmi]

I've seen 8% def specs converted in one op.

[zuzununu]

I'm a little skeptical about 8%.

[Topsy]

Ive seen 8% on the spec pile a number of times but you need high raw tpa sent. Send enough and you will be hitting those highs very frequently.

[csarmi]

Be as skeptical as you like, I've seen that with my own eyes, first hand. Was last age.

[Notmatching]

I think that no one did ever figure out the formula behind propaganda. That 8% specs does happen, but it varies wildly. It might be that that 8% is the cap on specs and thieves, it seems to be lower on leets and wizards (3-5% maybe??). Soldiers are rarely around in high enough numbers to estimate the cap

[Topsy]

There are soft caps on all the stacks(like 8% on specs and 2% on elites). The more raw tpa you send on the op the more frequently you are around that soft cap.

[Lestat]

You weren't rogue last age Csarmi ;)

[csarmi]

I didn't see it as a rogue, I saw it as a target.

[Lestat]

Ah that must have been some big number then.

[Evillone]

I ran some numbers 6-8 or so ages ago after RPG warred the sillycats. From my news the largest ops I saw where about 7% on specs, 4.5% on thieves and just slightly lower on wizards and 3% leets. The averages seemed more like 4% specs, 2% thieves and wizards and >.5% leets. This was based on having SoTs of before and after prop runs and using the news from the between period so not 100% but it was a pretty good sample size and my own personal experience with propping people sense has been similar.

[csarmi]

Ah that must have been some big number then.

Not really, I was sitting an undead province with some 5k def specs at home and a prop took 400 specialists.

[Notmatching]

It is an operation I really like during war, if you use it 12 hour pre chain it softens a province up on all fronts, making it a softer target for NS (for non-rogues), keeps it busy with retraining specs, softens it up for the NM strike on chain, and gives you easily 3k soldiers/specs/thieves you can send out to aid FB'ed provs or slay the dragon a good bit.

NS gives more certainty of success, but it misses out on the other aspects. It keeps my province free from training, I gain a full wpa during war so I can grow towards attackers who gained land without days of pumping wizzies. And I believe 4 rogues in a KD can slay a dragon every 24 hour just from propped specs.

It would be nice to have it less random but I can live with it :)
small calculation:
60% stealth / lose 10% on fails on average
1000 acre attacker (orc/undead)
10k specs = 5 ops = 2000 specs (4% average)
100 sols = 5 ops = 25 sols (5% avg)
2k wizzies = 5 ops = 200 wizzies (2% avg)
2.5k thieves = 5 ops = 250 thieves (2% avg)
0 leets (army is out) = 5 ops = 0

vs. Nightstrike
60% = 10% failed
10k specs = 25 ops = 3750 (1.5% avg) -- I might have this wrong, but my last experience tells me I got like 150 per 10k