No cb?? How accurate is stupid som ??

[huangmao]

So i am coming to the end of phasing into attacker

and i notice there is no crystal ball spell

and i have to som

but the som is not accurate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Luvfiwaegbvfabenvb !!!!!!!!

How accurate is the som, and how many thieves do i have to send to get an accurate som????????

[huangmao]

And p.s. Do mercenaries ride horses?????

[huangmao]

do soldiers ride horses????

[crease]

/me hopes this is a troll.

however, if not:

to get accurate military to send on hits you need to take a spy on throne (thief op) with 20% + 1 of your thieves. copy it so angel pops up a window showing the troops. Then you must get a spy on military. Use 10 thieves for this. SOM shows troops out with perfect accuracy. Subtract all troops that are out on attacks as shown in the SOM from the numbers in angel. This will give you defence home with 3% innacuracy. Coupled with the games random factor you will need to send 1.073 times the final defence angel shows.

eg: undead/cleric has 5k d specs 3k elites (aswell as 5k o specs and 8k horses but these dont count towards defence so can be ignored)

he attacks and you take a som showing 1408 leets and 160 soldiers are out (the only troops providing defence) these are subtracted from the sot:

Lets say angel makes this 24,200 defence - you must send 24,200*1.073=25,977 offense on the war page to break this with 100% certainty

[crease]

on the other questions... mercs can not ride horses but solds can

[crashteal]

Thought mercs can also ride horses

[NoseBlood]

only if ur avian and hapend to find a horse

[huangmao]

You say 20%+1 thieves for accurate SoT

but 20% of what? his acreage? or..?

SoM is totally, 100% accurate, doesn't it also show a total at home defense score..? (so why do I need SoT at all..?)

[gergnub]

http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...et.27s_Defense

[Zobo]

horses can ride mercs

While we're here, does SOM include TW?

[csarmi]

To get almost precise (3% error) SoM or SoT, you need to send 20% of your thieves.
SoM has troops out exact no matter how many troops you send

You have two choices:

1) you get a 20% SoM and oversend by 7% (3% error, 4% randomness)
2) you get a 20% SoT and a 1 thief SoM and you substract the number of elites to get defense

If you wanna work with option2, you can use angel as described above, but you can also create an excel sheet (takes 5 mins) or just calculate it without any tools. The way it is done is simple, you figure out the defensive military effectiveness from the SoT numbers, then substract the ElitesOut*EliteDefense*DefensiveME from the SoT defense at home. Then add 7%.

[csarmi]

For example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...TkxV2UwaG5yY0E

[hoshino]

Soldiers can ride horses, mercs can't. 20%+1 is what I've heard for SoM/SoT to have a 5%+- accuracy. Tacticians have 100% accuracy in war time even if you send 1 thief (assuming you do get the intel though).

Also to elaborate, the 20% is of your own maximum amount of thieves. Your TPA is taken into account with the probability of your op succeeding, has nothing to do with accuracy.

[crease]

horses can ride mercs

While we're here, does SOM include TW?

horses can ride mercs? thanks for that mental image k-|

som does include TW if its present

[Bishop]

Every intel operation will return +-3% accuracy when you send 20% or more of your tpa.