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    viable 25 player kd strategy?

    been trying to think up a strategy for an active 25 prov kd. opinions or comments please

    for a growth kd

    6 Dwarf Merchants
    9 Undead Clerics
    5 Faerie Mystics
    5 Faerie Rogues

    The dwarf merchants would act as attackers/banks. The Undead Clerics would devote a small part o land to farms to help feed the dwarves allowing them to build slightly higher number of banks. With the undead clerics providing a small amount of food and some soldiers to the dwarves in exchange for gold to keep the very small amount of military casualties trained into elites. this would allow the dwarves to grow large quite quickly and the undead to keep a very high offense going. fifteen pure attackers and five pure mages and five pure thieves.

    and maybe a slight dif build for a war kd

    6 dwarf merchants
    9 undead (choice of warrior, tactician, cleric, or war hero)
    5 halfling rogues
    5 elf mystics

    viable?
    Player History

    -Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
    -Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
    -Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
    -Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
    -Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC
    (S)
    -Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
    -Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
    -Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
    -Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
    -Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
    -Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
    -Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
    -Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
    -Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
    -Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)


    Noteworthy Achievments

    *** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
    *** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
    *** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***

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    war kd: not enough power.
    why are you shying away from faeries for t/m power and splitting it into two weaker provs that are susceptible to each other?

    personally with dwarf i'd combo with tactician. and undeads as warriors.

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    idk lol im a returning player this age and havent played a fearie personally. so it would be better to have the ten faeries be t/m's? And in the war kr build the elves would all be A/m and the halflings A/t for more offense. still not enough? glad to have people who know what theyre doing help me refine this strategy so in the event I ever get a full kd with active players lol
    Player History

    -Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
    -Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
    -Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
    -Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
    -Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC
    (S)
    -Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
    -Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
    -Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
    -Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
    -Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
    -Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
    -Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
    -Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
    -Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
    -Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)


    Noteworthy Achievments

    *** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
    *** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
    *** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***

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    It's probably better to pick a majority core of one race than split the core between 2-3 races. Having 15+ provinces with one race gives your kingdom a very strong focus in that one area.

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    3/4 tms is enough.
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    A lot of it depends on what your kd goals are. The more organized you are, the harder it will be to get wars. Players in most kd's will also have more fun/play harder if they have more choice in what they do. For a normal warring kd, something like 3/6 heavy attacker(to generate positive acre flow), 2/6 semi-turtlers/hybridish attackers(to try to get ub), and 1/6 t/m(as utility for both) is a pretty decent template. So for this age that'd be something like 13-14 dwarf/avian/cleric(i guess undead/warrior if your provs reallly want it), 7-8 elf/halfer/human, and 4 t/m(maybe 2 faery/mystic and 2 faery/rogue).

    There's a lot more unique things you can try to do using more specific race/pers distributions, but normally require more coordination, without necessarily giving much of a benifit.

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    To me, you seem to be putting way too many T/M's in your Kingdom. Most good Warring Kingdoms do well with no more than 5 or 6 T/M's.

    You give up way too much Offense if you play 10 T/M's.

    Just my opinion. I'm not a Monarch or a die hard player.

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    yea i seem to remember kds using more than 3-5 t/ms back in the day but times change so thats why i am here for advice :-). maybe run like five faerie t/ms, five dwarf merchants, and 15 ud clerics. having fifteen provs needing no food, spread and immune to plague, -75% off casualties and -50% def casualties, nd constant animate dead sounds pretty gnarly to me.
    Player History

    -Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
    -Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
    -Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
    -Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
    -Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
    -Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC
    (S)
    -Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
    -Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
    -Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
    -Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
    -Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
    -Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
    -Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
    -Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
    -Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
    -Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
    -Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)


    Noteworthy Achievments

    *** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
    *** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
    *** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***

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