Desertion Calculation -- 20 Credit Prize Inside

[Interesting Lion]

Well learn something new everyday.

[flogger]

That's because you've been warring people that don't chain.

well they generally try to, it just doesn't seem to work out that well

[goodz]

hey as humans your thieves should leave before your elites if your using mostly elites for defense! could result in seeing some desert even if they don't chain you that far :)

[flogger]

hey as humans your thieves should leave before your elites if your using mostly elites for defense! could result in seeing some desert even if they don't chain you that far :)

If you have no soldiers, all troops leave equally, correct?

My guess is the province had enough soldiers to prevent thief desertion, not enough soldiers to prevent others, and thats why I was confused, I only noticed thieves not going away a few ticks

[Persain]

If you have no soldiers, all troops leave equally, correct?

My guess is the province had enough soldiers to prevent thief desertion, not enough soldiers to prevent others, and thats why I was confused, I only noticed thieves not going away a few ticks

if u have no solds correct all categories will dsrt at the same rate. But yea i've lost thieves due to desertion MANY times.

[pukusam]

found this 2 year old thread. i did a desertion calculator and have results close to what the OP got. oops. doesn't matter persian already figured it out. aha

[UtopiaExpert]

Been reading through it. Let me get one thing straight.

Let's say you'd lose:

1K thieves
1K elites
1K def specs

BUT you have 900 soldiers who wil desert first instead. Does this mean you lose 700 of each, or does it deduct from 1 single category first, then the next?

[Persain]

i wrote it up in the link below. but basically desertion order is leet>theif>dspec>off, and solds only desert in place of those units if you have enough solds to cover all desertions.
http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...Overpopulation

In your example u'd lose all
1K thieves
1K elites
1K def specs
your 900 solds were not enough to completely cover any given category.


if u had for example 1500 solds u'd lose
1k solds
0 leets
1k theives
1k dspecs.

[UtopiaExpert]

Very clear, thank you man!

[merlyn]

I can confirm that maximum 20% of each troop type can desert. Was losing the plot trying to get my figures to match until I just read that.

[DM_Benjamin]

bump

[Volcanon]

I tried to create a desertion calculator but had real trouble making the calculator match reality, even with perfect intel.

The gotcha that I think I found is on this:

double desertionMetric = .2 * ((pop - sot.getPeasants() * .07) / (maxpop * 1.15) - 1);

I ended up throwing a maxpop *1.15 in there, as it actually seems to calculate desertion metric based off of when you begin deserting. This was the only way I could get the numbers to come even close to right. However a maximum of 20% seems reasonable - perhaps explains why my numbers were off but both really seem to need testing

I imagine I'll get some in as soon as I get chained;)

[Smitty87]

So what have we all learnt?

Don't get chained and you don't have to worry about desertions!

[neanderthal]

So what have we all learnt?

Don't get chained and you don't have to worry about desertions!

Yayyyy. Everybody be mediocre, because we know that helps kingdom goals.

Such silliness in an interesting thread.