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    Stealing

    Alright i was told when conducting thievery operations you old need to send about 1/4 of your thieves to gather intel from an enemy (is this true?). Was also curious as to how to find a good thief target, how many thieves to send, and any other useful knowledge to know when conducting these sneaky actions!

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    The information can be found at http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...every_Formulas

    Just be sure to modify it to fit your race as different races get different max marks on thievery

    Faery and Avian are at 1.2 for modifier
    Human is at 1.3 for modifier
    Orc is at 0.25 for modifier
    Every other race is at 1
    Last edited by Natsu; 09-12-2012 at 09:11.
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    10% of ur total thives for 100% intel.

    i usually send ~1200 thvies for every milion gold target has (oow), less for runes/bushels.

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    My marks are:

    1 for 1000 for gold
    1 for 100 for runes
    don't remember food
    1 for 5 for peasants/specs/elites/solds (NS/kidnap)

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    note that thievery gains are much stronger during war, hostile, and unfriendly (for the aggressor kingdom, NOT the receiving kingdom). rob vaults is about twice as strong in hostile as it is under normal circumstances, and the cap is higher.

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    So with a race modifier above 1 you simply need to send less thieves for same result? Can't you get a higher max result by sending as many thieves as those with no added sabotage damage?

    If not, then isn't sabotage damage pretty pointless when you have high TD's as you basically don't lose any thieves anyway so doesn't matter if you send 2k or 2.5k? You still need as high tpa to be successful.

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    if you send at cap with a prov that has a damage mod you will deal more damage. This is a recent change(last age).
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    So i shouldn't send all of my thieves, just the percentage mentioned? Also wondering how to find a good target? Go for someone my size, with a low NW per acre or....?

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    Yes just the %. Find someone your NW with low nw/a.

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    "Steals up to a max of 5.2% (14% in war) enemy gc at the rate of 40 (106 in war) gc per thief." - the wiki guide
    I tend to look at that whenever I judge the amount of thieves to send. Ofc the 5.2% would be increased if you're human/avian/faery, as will the 40 gc per thief number.
    Not sure if I understand this page correctly so I'll just link it: http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...every_Formulas
    If I understand it right it basicly means only 90% of what you steal goes to you, the other 10% are stolen by the thieves. It's a disgrace imo. Can't you trust thieves not to steal from you anymore?

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    Stealing is very mean, avoid it imo
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