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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWolf View Post
    yeah we nealy sent our dragon early as well cos one guy did a sot on a WH and then jumped on chat and said "quick guys they killed it". Lucky for us we had 2 mill left to fund it so by the time we got close someone else did a SoT on a non WH guy and we debated and figured out what happened ;)
    IMO dragons ravaging should still be shown for WH to elimate confusion.

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    I guess it doesn't ravage their lands tho. I hear a lot of support for Gold dragons going around. Is there any particular reason people think these are better than the others, or actually are?

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    If you want to ops faeries, gold dragons are pretty sweet against those that runn 20%+ WTs. Also slow down their rune production, and slowly degrade their attacker's econ/building effects. Sapphires also help when opping faeries, but more directly with wpa/tpa mods. Don't really do much against attackers except making it easier for your attackers to ops theirs. ultimately up to your kd strat!

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    Poster above me got it right. Its all about taking away rune and gold production. Also gold seems to eat away at KDs. Very dangerous to sit on.

    My kd is running a mostly war hero UD setup and if we have anything but gold sent on us, we leave it. Gold is the only thing we will kill. Gold eats NW and destroys sustainability.

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    gold is okay, not great. kinda like the homes of dragons, except not as crappy; they give good general damage to everything, but ruby and emerald drakes are a lot more consistently useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooblet View Post
    gold is okay, not great. kinda like the homes of dragons, except not as crappy; they give good general damage to everything, but ruby and emerald drakes are a lot more consistently useful.
    If the attackers are all war Heroes and your chaining the attackers the ruby and emerald are the worst dragons you can send, only option is gold, since you want the tms economy to suffer so they can't aid attackers, fund dragons and hopefully waste there stealth stealing runes/gc than nsing attackers.

    If your chaining tms then it's a case of if you can easily break then emerald or if you can't then ruby. Not a fan of sapphire unless they have a lot of hybrids.

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    That's they way I figured it. I mean I understand it will reduce rune production (which are easy to steal anyway) then slightly reduce off and increase attack times etc. I just don't think those small advantages compare to the big specialised effects of the other pets. We have been on a Sapphire buzz lately and all I hear is Gold Gold Gold and no one can give me a valid reason why.

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    A 20% BE decrease to banks effects T/Ms that bad? Because that is the only econ effect it has over the other dragons as far as I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
    A 20% BE decrease to banks effects T/Ms that bad? Because that is the only econ effect it has over the other dragons as far as I can see.
    The assumption of thread is the enemy kd's attacker are mostly WH so the dragons will only effect tms, which means unless your chaining tms only options are gold and sapphire and I don't think -30% wpa/tpa is going to stop tms nsing and msing your attackers, hence gold dragon.

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    Also -20% to tds which really only effect the replacing cost of thieves and -20% guilds means that ms last 8 days instead of 10, which waste mana with recast If they get runed starved since -20% production then they are using stealth on stealing rather than ns.

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    OK I understand I kinda derailed the thread a bit.

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    if the enemy faeries are mystic, you pick gold, if they are rogue you pick saph, thats about all you need to know. You cant chain t/m's against war hero kd, thats suicidal... enjoy withdrawing mintime down 200k+ peasants


    reason you go gold against mystics is for following:

    25-30% extra thief losses on ops
    30-40% fewer runes produced
    30-40% effective guilds, so much shorter durations on MS

    aswell as the obvious lowered income
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    Quote Originally Posted by crease View Post
    You cant chain t/m's against war hero kd, thats suicidal... enjoy withdrawing mintime down 200k+ peasants
    I disagree with this point, against a WH kd its all that much more important to chain t/m's. Because once they are gone/dead/chained you'll never have a reason to send another dragon and u can spend dragon gold on pumping your own kd.

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    25-30% extra thief losses on ops
    30-40% fewer runes produced
    30-40% effective guilds, so much shorter durations on MS

    Are they real numbers?

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    prob should not be letting u guys know this info, but im in an alll undead war hero kingdom, and we dont kill dragons an would be big argument to lkill 1 if it was sent pre war to, even at half life, so if u get into a war with all WH and u have the econamy for multiple dragon, send 1 pre war vs war heros. gold def the best to send unless u have a fulll hybride kingdom when saphire willl be better.

    fought a top 10 hybrid waring kingdom and with saphire none of our tms were effective, many fail, if standard heavy attacker kingdom vs war heros stick to gold.

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