Suggestions for further improvement of EoW CF

[Elurin]

I think we have taken some really nice steps towards making war more beneficial in recent ages. I would like to propose one main change in line with this and open up a discussion on another.

1) Improve WPA generation in EoW CF. The bottleneck in all growth related to war kd's is wpa. This has large impact in terms of where in charts war kd plays as well as how much time has to be spent rebuilding from a war (and thus increasing the diff between a kd that went to war compared to one that stayed out of war). I suggest +100% wizard generation during the EoW CF period to combat this

Impact: I believe this change would decrease downtime standing still to get back wpa and be able to compete, while also increasing a kd's ability to grow later in age without being heavily penalized compared to a kd that grew early on and stayed stagnant and pumped. This would lead to a more dynamic game. Science remains as an important factor so being higher up earlier will still be beneficial, but less so.

2) What is the possibility to decrease EoW period to 2 or 3 days with the exact same benefit as the current 4 day period? Being in EoW CF is basically a total waste of time for the player and adds no value - but it's a very necesarry element. I will not do the calculation, but with a build time of 6 hours, +750% peasant growth etc - could we not cut the 4 days and still meet the objective of the eow CF which is to get a kd ready for coming OOW?

Thoughts welcome.

[Bishop]

1) numerous posts on this, it wont happen.

2) sure

[American Badass]

Hmm, with number 2 after a long fought war it is sometimes nice to be able to chill for 4 days without having to do much :P

[flutterby]

Hmm, with number 2 after a long fought war it is sometimes nice to be able to chill for 4 days without having to do much :P

But some kingdoms like to war back to back to back.

[Bishop]

Hmm, with number 2 after a long fought war it is sometimes nice to be able to chill for 4 days without having to do much :P

Fortified

[Natsu]

For a shorter eowcf time frame you would in a sense have to make it so you gain 4 days of income in the 3 day window but only for eowcf. Otherwise you'll see a ton of mismanaged provinces getting slaughtered and the eowcf losing the benefit it was created for. Just need to find the right balance for repopulation, maintaining food, income, and draft ability. If one of these are thrown too far off course then eowcf will become detrimental and the other aspect is that it will eventually make mages useless unless they run atleast 50% Guilds all age due to not training enough wizards.

[Karazy]

Easy fix for wpa problems. Make them trainable from sols and be included in your draft.

Change guilds to mod your magic effectiveness instead of producing wizards.

[cRs]

Easy fix for wpa problems. Make them trainable from sols and be included in your draft.

Change guilds to mod your magic effectiveness instead of producing wizards.

amen to that. do ur wpa as u wish, as u can do it with thiefs/off/def.

[tras19]

also remove existing plague and dragons at surrender.

[Elurin]

I do not agree with threating wizards in the same way as thieves, and have them trainable. Different "resources" should be aquired in different ways. However, I do not see why you are against faster retraining during the very limited EoW CF period Bishop. This does not change the inherit mechanism behind how wizard generation works, it merely facilitates dynamic growth of war kd's and further evens the playing field between kd's that war their way upwards and those that whore - something that previous changes have been working against.

[Bishop]

You can have faster wizard regeneration on specific provs if you want though, choose Mystic.

[Korp]

You can have faster wizard regeneration on specific provs if you want though, choose Mystic.

Why do you bother to post?

[Bishop]

So people realise that suggestions are being read.

[tras19]

respectable answer. how will korp respond? stay tuned...

[B3nnY]

You can have faster wizard regeneration on specific provs if you want though, choose Mystic.

What if we'd like better regeneration for all provinces ? Is there really a way to abuse this change ? ... what if it's +50% then ?

Sorry if it was discussed in length somewhere, I haven't read it, please point me the thread and I'll go read why this would be such a bad idea / abusable one...