Bug with min gains

[jdorje]

In contrary to the announced changes and to all logical mechanics, the -50% min gains chance only affects bottomfeeding not topfeeding.

A relaxed gains curve that gave actual gains in the 50-200% range or even the 33-300% range would be advisable, but min gains needs to be symmetric at both sides.

[csarmi]

Also there is something very weird going on with those mingains as well.
There is no way I can explain 3.6% gains hitting someone 1/3 your size.

[Bishop]

You need to show proof with numbers, thanks.

[csarmi]

Check our last war. I don't have a clue how to find my support ID.

[DHaran]

http://utopia-game.com/shared/feedba..._instructions/

[jdorje]

small guy hits someone 2x his nw, gains 4.2%. Province is orc.
big guy hits someone 1/2 his nw, gains 1.8%. Province is human.

Neither of these were my province, but i've received multiple confirmations on this. since networth typically changes quickly after such hits, what sort of evidence would be considered "proof"?

[Persain]

Bishop I have no clue how well it can be traced back for top/bottom feeds, but D0BAF6BE.

Examples
ORC: July 24 of YR0 captured 58 acres of land from
Undead: January 1 of YR1 captured 46 acres of land from

Guy starts out ~1250 acres.
Hit by guy <1/2 his nw, gains are 58 acres
58/1250~4.64% land gained

4.64/(orc 1.25 gains+science ~3%)=3.6%...min top feed gain last age.

New acres:1250-58=1192
Hit by guy <1/2 his nw, gains are 46 acres
46/1192~3.86% land gained
3.86/(undead sience ~7%)==3.6%...min top feed gain last age.


Same war:
January 12 of YR1 invaded and captured 4 acres of land.
January 12 of YR1 invaded and captured 4 acres of land.
Big non orc hitter small chained person at ~190-220 acres.

4/200=0.02~1.8% min gains bottom feeding.


Personally im fine w/this though, its just stupid to think that if i conquest/hit someone incredibly large i can only gain 1.8% of their land. How the heck are u supposed to bring down a bank/oor attacker if you can only hit them for 1.8% of their land but they can quad you for 7.2% of your land.

Even considering the oor guy is larger so 1.8% is "more land" it's gonna take forever to topple a bank in war now. Just makes banking even MORE broken.

[csarmi]

http://utopia-game.com/shared/feedba..._instructions/

Your personal Support ID is ED573282

No idea how to get to that page btw.

[csarmi]

small guy hits someone 2x his nw, gains 4.2%. Province is orc.
big guy hits someone 1/2 his nw, gains 1.8%. Province is human.

Neither of these were my province, but i've received multiple confirmations on this. since networth typically changes quickly after such hits, what sort of evidence would be considered "proof"?

Our 240k nw human was hitting 80k orcs for for 3-4% land just fine.

[jdorje]

So you're saying min gains is not halved on bottomfeeds either?

Is this what was fixed in the recent "server update"? Can someone in war confirm whether or not it works correctly in both directions?

[Fazer_One]

Me on 158k NW attack province on 43k NW 170 acres in war.

Gain is 4 acre.

Your personal Support ID is 5A96CDFE

[Bishop]

What's wrong with that? We halved the min gains floor.

[Persain]

yes, again the minimum gains when bottomfeeding works fine

hitting 189 acre person <<50% NW yields ~2% of their land

June 3 of YR2 Captured 4 acres of land from
June 3 of YR2 Captured 4 acres of land from

Top feeding however did not get changed.
June 9 of YR2 captured 49 acres of land from
>200% top feed when an orc hit someone ~1100 acres.

Is this intended or a bug?

[Bishop]

I think its all the same mod, but we can certainly double-check.

[Petrified]

Topfeeding was 3% minimum gains in my last war.

February 18 of YR2 to be inflicted onto captured 115 acres of land from hedgehog . > first hit. Target started somewhere between 2500-3000 acres (2900 I think) and the attackers are all small orcs.
February 18 of YR2 world for anyone_In captured 105 acres of land from hedgehog.
February 18 of YR2 to be inflicted onto captured 99 acres of land from hedgeho.
February 19 of YR2 I have surpassed captured 93 acres of land from hedgehog.
February 19 of YR2 hope for a better captured 84 acres of land from hedgehog.
February 19 of YR2 hope for a better captured 78 acres of land from hedgehog.
February 19 of YR2 insane the vicious captured 74 acres of land from hedgehog.
February 19 of YR2 insane the vicious captured 69 acres of land from hedgehog.

Gains started increasing after that as he fell closer to our NW.