Seemingly impossible to play as a 'warring kingdom'

[Palem]

The war win chart has nothing to do with you not being able to find wars.

[Araqiel]

there's your problem. Stop ghetto bashing.

Well stop using a system that encourages ghetto bashing.

[Araqiel]

The war win chart has nothing to do with you not being able to find wars.

But it does. No one wants to fight tougher opponents when they get the same reward for raping a ghetto.

[koti00]

Bishop:
Stop nub Bashing in the forums please :)

[Palem]

You claim that it encourages ghetto bashing, shouldn't you be at the top of charts since you're ghetto bashing?

Do you see the problem here?

[Araqiel]

You claim that it encourages ghetto bashing, shouldn't you be at the top of charts since you're ghetto bashing?

Do you see the problem here?

We are amongst the top. So yes.

[Persain]

One does not simply force a CF. How does anyone 'force a cf'? Threaten them with a wave from my skd friends?

you force a cf by having a kd setup or strategy that doesnt get beat by 72 hours of MS. If you wave a kd, send a are u going to war us or move on msg w/it. If they dont respond it usually means war. Consider every one of theses situations war, The relations system hasn't adapted from the times when u could get 19 wars/age so it effectively IS war. Instantly start plundering out for gold and growing your largest feary/human/dwarf whoever and make them unbreakable. Once that player is unbreakable have them grow and grow. If the kd u waved doesn't think they can win or thinks that you're geting stronger not weaker from 72 hours of MS then they will CF. Once the relations are over have your big attacker suicide into MUCH bigger kds for science he'll be hit down rather quickly and in 2-3 days you can try again. In the mean time you have a big attacker and low def across the kd, who knows u might get waved for war by a target you think u can beat.

The idea is dont consider the WW crown anything of value, fight to have fun and consider actual "war", I

My monarch had a look around yesterday and said most 25 player kds are at war at this very moment in time so if there were a lack of 25 prov kds for you to war its probably because you stayed too small to war ghetto's.

so even at 25 people finding "Wars" isnt easy but finding wars at 2/2 or 3/3 isnt hard when your a full 25 people because most of those kds are actually willing to fight very lopsided battles.

[Binar]

Araqiel: We are OOW in like 96 hrs, just wave us and you got urself a war

[Araqiel]

Araqiel: We are OOW in like 96 hrs, just wave us and you got urself a war

I am f5'ing my inbox for your loc!

[Palem]

We are amongst the top. So yes.

Yet you're claiming you can't find wars.

Something isn't adding up.

Edit:
They are PewPew, go to the charts and find them.

[Binar]

PM sent nublord

[Persain]

I am f5'ing my inbox for your loc!

you said u were 2.8 million, they are many times larger than your kd, hes just being dumb. Just keep waving kds and grow a giant unbreakable via explore/aid if they try to hit fort, you'll get war soon enough

[Binar]

ohhh... sory bout that,
I didnt read the all the posts in this thread :P

[Araqiel]

Why do you have to stay small? My nubly 20 prov ghetto almost hit the top 20 now after 2 won wars (says a lot of the state of this game..) We will gladly war you!

We has a CF! ;) Tell your noob monarch to stay out of our chan!

[Bishop]

But I do represent a player base. I have played in a warring for six ages now. The kingdom has played at 25 provs and now 20 and its the same problem. What warring kingdoms have you been playing in recently exactly? I know you might be the owner of the game, but you should probably listen to what your players are saying. I am not the only one that thinks the war win chart sucks. In fact pretty much EVERYONE on the old post (http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...lacement-chart) agreed that it needs to be improved. I am not the one refusing to acknowledge anything. If you want to keep players, you should probably listen to them, or at least come up with viable alternatives to suggestions, rather than being blissfully ignorant and refusing to change anything.

I have nothing to do with ownership of the game. However, I've played in warring kingdoms for 10 years. Why are you 2.8 mill after 2 wars? Looks like you are deliberately staying small and now wondering why ghettos won't war you. As I said before, the issue is with your kingdom.